leadership

[KenH]

Berlinwaller, I am far from being in anyone's pocket , I am friendly with a fair few members of staff, and a couple of very minor shareholding directors yes, but I gain no advantage from this , I support the club at my own expense , and I have actually been very vocal if, in my opinion, anyone at the club has cocked up, so get your facts straight ......have you given any of your time to help the club out ?

Wasn't it one of your director friends who laughed and told you rumours were wrong when it was being said the club had made a whopping loss of £750k a couple of years ago. Then the accounts were published and the loss was even higher. Not very reliable was he?

[BerlinWaller]

Go easy Ken, Sad sack and MPH are a bit touchy today.

[Bare Grills]

My thoughts are that the club only survives so one of the bigger losers keeps a chance of getting some of their money back out of a future deal. Until then the club are strapped for cash and even the award winning chef has cleared off leaving the pie production to a local baker/butcher family. Try Google'ing events at The Globe, let me know if you have better luck finding anything, I couldn't.

Personally, I'd love to see it go bang, big time. The club's being run for all the wrong reasons, money. Go into administration, let the Trust take over, put Rod back at the top where he belongs and start again lower down the leagues. I reckon only then you'd get your 2,000 gates the club needs.

[mrpotatohead]

All I can say to you both is this....all the directors at the club that I KNOW, work very hard in their free time , for no money, for the good of Morecambe FC, they have little or no prospect of getting anything back that they put in , and have little or no say in the future of the club because their stake in it is very small, so they deserve credit and have no accountability to anyone, say what you want about me because anyone on here who knows me properly would tell you that I don't give a fuck.

[Christies Child]

My thoughts are that the club only survives so one of the bigger losers keeps a chance of getting some of their money back out of a future deal. Until then the club are strapped for cash and even the award winning chef has cleared off leaving the pie production to a local baker/butcher family. Try Google'ing events at The Globe, let me know if you have better luck finding anything, I couldn't.

Personally, I'd love to see it go bang, big time. The club's being run for all the wrong reasons, money. Go into administration, let the Trust take over, put Rod back at the top where he belongs and start again lower down the leagues. I reckon only then you'd get your 2,000 gates the club needs.

No doubt someone will correct me, but the Trust are not and would not be in a position to take over in the clubs current predicament. Sometime in the future..who knows

As for Rod, I think everybody would love to see the guy at the helm but again i doubt it will happen....unfortunately....but never say never

As for starting again, my future son in law supports Scarboro and they started all over again after the closure of their ground. Home games were played at Bridlington in front of gates of circa 200. Last close season they finally moved back to a new stadium in Scarboro complete with a 4G pitch and now get gates of circa 1000 and are top of their league looking good for at least a promotion place.

It can be done BUT for me survival in the EFL has to be paramount as I believe that we would never return if we faced relegation.....certainly not in my lifetime that's for sure

[Bare Grills]

It can be done BUT for me survival in the EFL has to be paramount as I believe that we would never return if we faced relegation.....certainly not in my lifetime that's for sure

What's the EFL done for us? We're usually hanging around the bottom of the league, gates are worse than the conference, we're in debt, not sure who holds the purse and worse, no idea who's making decisions off the pitch. At least back then we had something to look forward to, promotion, play-offs, etc. Now we're just stuck in a boring survival game that's turned most people away.

[Bare Grills]

What needs to be asked is What Is Success? Is it being in the EFL? Being self-sufficient? Being profitable? Playing good football? Winning more than a few times per season? If the club goes bang, I don't think I'd see them in the EFL in my lifetime either but I'd die happy watching enjoyable football.

[sandgrown]

My thoughts are that the club only survives so one of the bigger losers keeps a chance of getting some of their money back out of a future deal. Until then the club are strapped for cash and even the award winning chef has cleared off leaving the pie production to a local baker/butcher family. Try Google'ing events at The Globe, let me know if you have better luck finding anything, I couldn't.

Personally, I'd love to see it go bang, big time. The club's being run for all the wrong reasons, money. Go into administration, let the Trust take over, put Rod back at the top where he belongs and start again lower down the leagues. I reckon only then you'd get your 2,000 gates the club needs.

sadly a lot of home truths in there, unless things change soon its easy to see where we'll end up.

relegated for the first time in our proud history, thanks to whom ?

[BerlinWaller]

What needs to be asked is What Is Success? Is it being in the EFL? Being self-sufficient? Being profitable? Playing good football? Winning more than a few times per season? If the club goes bang, I don't think I'd see them in the EFL in my lifetime either but I'd die happy watching enjoyable football.

I don't think it matters what league the club are in. I say that as a fan, I know there would be huge financial implications when/if we drop out of the professional ranks. I agree that gates would probably rise if we dropped and started winning more than we lose at home. The footy league was the dream but the best times I had as a Morecambe fan were the Griff/ Harvey days with a Leighton James shape blip in between.

[KenH]

If relegation happens, I hope that there are rules preventing the EFL parachute money being used to repay director loans and instead the club forced to use it for players etc so we have a chance of success in the lower league rather than going into free fall.

[George Dawes]

If relegation happens, I hope that there are rules preventing the EFL parachute money being used to repay director loans and instead the club forced to use it for players etc so we have a chance of success in the lower league rather than going into free fall.

Aye, read this and immediately thought of Blackpool and the fans accusing the Owners with being shifty with the millions in parachute payments from the Premier League.

You could argue if Directors lent money in good faith then it's only fare they get it back?

[mrpotatohead]

Are you suggesting anything untoward about our present directors Ken?

You could hardly begrudge the owner from Qatar a few quid if, despite his massive financial contributions things still went tits up, I don't think any of the board would expect anything , so enlighten us please on this comment?

[NPL Daze]

Personally, I'd love to see it go bang, big time. The club's being run for all the wrong reasons, money. Go into administration, let the Trust take over, put Rod back at the top where he belongs and start again lower down the leagues. I reckon only then you'd get your 2,000 gates the club needs.

In a fashion, sadly, I kind of agree with this

I'd love to see Mr Taylor at the helm of Morecambe Football Club once again and the whole thing re-invented with the emphasis on the Football - and not the business/corporate side. I understand the need for it to be a business, but we have lost the CLUB element of the words Morecambe Football Club. That has long since gone. A club is a group of people all together. We have become a split group of people now I'm afraid. The "togetherness" of days of old has sadly departed us.

[NPL Daze]

The footy league was the dream but the best times I had as a Morecambe fan were the Griff/ Harvey days with a Leighton James shape blip in between.

Couldn't have put it better.