How big a game is it on Tuesday?

[black morse]

I dare say that Thommo, Campbell and Oliver are on similar wages to Devitt and Miller.

I dare say, I doubt that very much!

I'm sick and tired of people going on about you get what you can afford. Accy have disproved that because by all accounts their budget isn't that much different than ours.

Well, if you call double not "much different".

Why would Miller have wanted to return to a side where the manager put him on the bench time after time?

Possibly because Jim helped him resurrect his career? What was he doing before coming to us? Perhaps coming back would have been a good move for him. Jim said he would have liked to sign him again in January but he went to Crewe (and started on the bench).

I hope we do stay in the football league, but sadly next season we will be praying for two sides worse than us yet again. But as per usual JB is untouchable!! He could well become the longest serving manager in english football at the end of the season....i ask WHY

It isn't that he's "untouchable" or perfect. But he's trying to compete with one arm tied behind his back and his boot laces tied together! If he'd had even a half decent budget, then fair enough, but I think he's worked miracles even keeping us in the Football League again. I do find some of Jim's tactics frustrating. I think substituting Lang for Oliver is always a waste of time. I think if we're going to have Oliver as a target man, we need someone like Lang very close to him, to pick up the second ball. Invariably, with Oliver on the pitch, it is a big hoof, he wins the header, the defence pick up the second ball and attack us again. I also think Jim needs to stop worrying about the opposition and let them worry about us. Settle on a favoured formation and play the best players in those positions. How often have we started with the same side two matches in succession? Stop worrying about losing and set up to win. And yes, wasting time in the first half, at home, is embarrassing! If we were at Anfield in the FA Cup I'd probably accept it but other than that... But, I still think that Jim has repeatedly done an amazing job. Sometimes treading water is a good idea, because the alternative is drowning. I'd love to see Jim given a season with a budget to work with that puts us on the same footing as the rest of the league.

If we go down its National League for the foreseeable future.

If we go down, I'd be delighted with National League for the foreseeable future! If we go down, I'd expect another relegation battle and quite possibly losing it. We desperately need the off-field situation to be resolved and some investment.

I really hope we go for and get a win on Tuesday against a side who are playing for pride and contract renewals but nothing else.

Fully agree with all this Keith.

[Freez]

Carlisle budget this season is 1.9 million, Kieth Curle said that last Saturday.
Ours is 600k.

Rocket Science anyone?

[black morse]

Carlisle budget this season is 1.9 million, Kieth Curle said that last Saturday.
Ours is 600k.

Rocket Science anyone?

Well that's pretty close isn't it? Anyway as CC never fails to remind us Accy has a budget not much bigger than ours and budget isn't important as has been proved by Accy

[paulshrimp]

In terms of team selection and tactics Tuesday is a "free" game. There is no benefit to hanging on for a draw and hoping we don't lose. Either of those results won't change our situation. Jim might as well go for a win and risk a defeat. COYS

[BerlinWaller]

Carlisle budget this season is 1.9 million, Kieth Curle said that last Saturday.
Ours is 600k.

Rocket Science anyone?

Devitt and Miller are only squad players so will they be on much more than Campbell? Stockton will be on good money as his stock was fairly high even though Hearts released him.
What is the squad size at Carlisle? I bet they have a lot more senior pro's there rather than top earning superstars.

[Freez]

Devtt hasn't missed more than a handful since November TBF.
Stockton we looked at when he was being released by Hearts, couldn't even afford a third of what he is on, and he is a squad player.
We have 20 senior professionals, Carlisle have 27, but Miller is on loan at Crewe but they have over three times our budget yet still Accy are above them. That's why they are annoyed.

It's how you use the money obviously.

[Keith]

Devitt and Miller are only squad players so will they be on much more than Campbell? Stockton will be on good money as his stock was fairly high even though Hearts released him.

I believe Devitt & Miller both had a substantial pay rise when they left us and we weren't even in the ball park for resigning either of them. Jim's playing budget has been cut season after season and he's left every summer, trying to unearth a diamond.

[Christies Child]

With regards to budgets, where has it been made public what our actual budget is fir this current season.

I still maintain that it's not down to budgets as Stanley to their credit have proved.

For me it's more about managerial style. Being able to get the best out of players. Choice of signings and tac


tical supremacy on the field and giving fans what they want after all we are in the entertainment game.

[lancaster shrimp]

in regard to budget, I agree with CC. I was watching the Macclesfield game yesterday and the commentator said by the end of July, they had four players signed up and it was wait and see whose left. I would also argue that Bromley, (who are on the verge of the playoffs in National League) and Shrewsbury in League one. have lesser budgets compared to some in their respective leagues?

[Keith]

I still maintain that it's not down to budgets as Stanley to their credit have proved.

For me it's more about managerial style. Being able to get the best out of players.

So Morecambe should be competing with Manchester City if it has nothing to do with budgets?

At times I find Jim's style of play frustrating too, but I think he's cutting his cloth accordingly, trying to do the best with what he's got. If you don't think he's getting the best out of players, look at the players who left us, where they went and where they came from. Not many players (any?) signed who were 'on the up'. Hardly any (any?) who fans from their ex-clubs were sad to see go. Devitt & Miller were failing. He's turned more than his fair share of careers around. Even the likes of Sam Lavelle were struggling in football. Give Jim criticism by all means, but don't be so blinkered that you can't see anything other than criticism.

[Christies Child]

You've chosen to miss out mentioning the post elsewhere where I'm full of admiration for his loyalty to our club both as a player and manager.....my concern i s his tactics and negativity which even you have repeatedly commented on.....whatever

[mrpotatohead]

The problem is CC , you are like a 2 sided broken record and the Shit stuff comes when we least need it, we want support and unity at the moment not the crap you keep spouting, although, on the bright side nobody listens to you.

[marky No.1]

http://www.onlybarnet.com/forum/viewtop ... 7ec9bc6836

[black morse]

Just referring back to the thread heading.......it is now our biggest game this season. We know we can win it if we perform. Hold your nerve and give full support.
COYS

[NPL Daze]

a relegated Chesterfield

Sacked Jack Lester this morning.

[Christies Child]

The problem is CC , you are like a 2 sided broken record and the Shit stuff comes when we least need it, we want support and unity at the moment not the crap you keep spouting, although, on the bright side nobody listens to you.

We've had to put up with vile re PMcG for far longer than any concerns I have about our management....so as long as I continue to pay for my Season Ticket I'll continue to say it as I see it whilst fully accepting that my views are not shared by others.

I'll also continue to support our club regardless of league and style of play, unlike others who have simply walked away. Those are the ones you should be aiming your contempt at.

[mrpotatohead]

I have never said vile things regarding PMG, possibly slanderous ..but not vile...as for contempt?
nay nay, and thrice nay..you need to look at the reasons Jim is in the position he is in and get out of daddy's arse

[Christies Child]

I have never said vile things regarding PMG, possibly slanderous ..but not vile...as for contempt?
nay nay, and thrice nay..you need to look at the reasons Jim is in the position he is in and get out of daddy's arse

This is getting increasingly silly and therefore I'm no longer going to challenge your beliefs. So please feel free to post what you think regarding my thoughts .....I honestly no longer care...

[MfcChris]

Somebody needs to tell our manager that a draw will not be enough,we have had chances to win games at home lately but have decided that draws will do.even throwing 2-0 leads away against chesterfield the worst team in the league!

He knows that 1 draw against Barnet will be enough or 2 draws vs Coventry and Cambridge will be enough. Therefore he will play for 3 draws.

[MfcChris]

I still maintain that it's not down to budgets as Stanley to their credit have proved.

For me it's more about managerial style. Being able to get the best out of players.

So Morecambe should be competing with Manchester City if it has nothing to do with budgets?

At times I find Jim's style of play frustrating too, but I think he's cutting his cloth accordingly, trying to do the best with what he's got. If you don't think he's getting the best out of players, look at the players who left us, where they went and where they came from. Not many players (any?) signed who were 'on the up'. Hardly any (any?) who fans from their ex-clubs were sad to see go. Devitt & Miller were failing. He's turned more than his fair share of careers around. Even the likes of Sam Lavelle were struggling in football. Give Jim criticism by all means, but don't be so blinkered that you can't see anything other than criticism.

You concentrate on budgets too much. There are plenty of examples in other leagues. Newcastle have a championship budget and championship players but their manager and tactics have kept them up and even maybe a top half finish.

[Freez]

Newcastle spent 47 million on wages last season, it has risen this season, which puts them above 5 other clubs in the Premier League, however, that was one of the top three in the Championship last season. So perhaps Burnley at 33 million last season is a better example, although again there's has risen again this season. But both teams surviving comfortably.

So a fair point, apart from our budget has been cut year on year for the last four, and yet we still have previously survived.

[BerlinWaller]

I want to see Jim kicking every ball tomorrow. I don't want to see him hunched up in the dugout with his ear stuck to a phone. I want to see Jimbo, number 5 and captain, not Jimbo the Manager.

[Westgate Wanderer]

I want to see Jim kicking every ball tomorrow. I don't want to see him hunched up in the dugout with his ear stuck to a phone. I want to see Jimbo, number 5 and captain, not Jimbo the Manager.

there's a good chance.... Everton played last night so he won't need to keep looking at his phone for score updates!

[marky No.1]

Cambridge down to the 'bare bones' , seems a while since we heard that...
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/sport/ ... t-14564980

[NPL Daze]

there's a good chance.... Everton played last night so he won't need to keep looking at his phone for score updates!

Most stupid and ridiculous post I've ever, ever read on here.