New owners!!!

[Bare Grills]

If anything needed jumping on, it was CC's comments about PMG. Yet another "fact" from CC that he didn't actually know for a fact but heard from someone else and is now unwilling to divulge his source.

[bill ding]

[quote="Bare Grills"]If anything needed jumping on, it was CC's comments about PMG. Yet another "fact" from CC that he didn't actually know for a fact but heard from someone else and is now unwilling to divulge his source.[/quote

As I said if you think or know it’s wrong say so , he was just repeating what he had been told which is what a forum is all about !

[Bare Grills]

I've no idea if it was right or wrong hence the question he refused to answer. As much as I don't like PMG, there's a limit as to what should be said and bringing someone's personal life into a public discussion is a step too far.

He could have just replied he heard it on the grapevine.

[fulwoodshrimp]

If neither of the two new owners have serious funds how are they going to finance the club over the next two years? As I said in an earlier post, something doesn't seem right about this whole saga. I wonder if there is some plan that will lead to chunks of the land surrounding the stadium being sold off and even the covenant on the ground being challenged to enable that to be sold? The two new owners seem to have the skills to attempt this- one is an expert on covenant advice and one in buying and selling real estate. If this worrying scenario is untrue then the board should explain how the club is going to be financed over the next two years including where the two new owners are going to get the funds from and explain how the club and its assets are to be maintained for Morecambe Football Club and are not to make money for any individuals. We need communication to reassure us that moving forward everything is being done for the benefit of our beloved club.

[John L]

These are reasons why so few members post on here and increasing numbers are posting on the Face Book site for Morecambe FC. where there are no pen names , if someone says something to you they do it under their real name.

They can still be nasty though, real name or alias, from the relative comfort of their keyboard and touchscreen. I recently stopped using Facebook for the foreseeable future, partly because of this, and my relationship with Shrimpsvoices is also on a tightrope thanks to the attitude of some members, both directly and indirectly.

[Posh]

Slightly worried that Colins legal specialism is restrictive covenant advice and Jason’s is buying and selling of real estate - let’s hope we have not got two in who think they can break the ground up and sell the land - an expert in legal covenant would have read all the info before investing maybe...
Neither have personal wealth to run a club with losses like ours - one of the Companies Mayfair Fin Ltd avoided being struck off in January 2018 and none of the Companies he has Directorships have money.
Maybe some people know far more than they are telling us.....
Love right now to be proved very wrong for the sake of our club and us the fans!

Given all that wouldn’t it be ridiculous if they had lent us some money and could seize all the assets of the club? Oh, they do.

To be fair to Jason he says he’s a pawnbroker and Colin calls himself the “Ferrari lawyer”.

[mrpotatohead]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

[Phil Anderer]

Some of know CC's real name, and I was working at one of his neighbours' houses two days ago! I have to say I know his views have a tendency to be in the minority on here, but a minority of the responses he gets do tend towards the bullying end. Having experienced bullying at many points during my life, I would never condone that, even if he is at times inviting, shall we say, 'strong' responses.

Back to the thread topic, at the moment there is a lot of speculation as to the motives behind the the new purchasers. We will know when we know, if there is any nefarious intent, and throwing theories around isn't really helping anyone. The two gents have been prepared to show their faces on TV and make promises as to funding, so I would suggest we have little option but to wait and see if these come to fruition, but if they don't and it turns out to be a front to sell off all the assets and destroy the club, at least we'll know whose face to put on the dartboard, alongside PMG.

[bill ding]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

No body else gives a F##K either (not a bullying reply)

[Gone_Shrimping]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

And you weren't one of the 2 (Bare Grills and Morecambe Geek) , I am sure CC knows who you are
Whenever Morecambe Geek makes a post it is nothing to do with MFC but is aimed directly and in a nasty bullying way at CC.

[Phil Anderer]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

And you weren't one of the 2 (Bare Grills and Morecambe Geek) , I am sure CC knows who you are
Whenever Morecambe Geek makes a post it is nothing to do with MFC but is aimed directly and in a nasty bullying way at CC.

The question is, will Morecambegeek do a CC and refuse to respond to comments?

[Gone_Shrimping]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

And you weren't one of the 2 (Bare Grills and Morecambe Geek) , I am sure CC knows who you are
Whenever Morecambe Geek makes a post it is nothing to do with MFC but is aimed directly and in a nasty bullying way at CC.

The question is, will Morecambegeek do a CC and refuse to respond to comments?

Take a look back at the last 20 or 30 postings MG made and you will see that the vast majority of them if not all were aimed at CC.

[Phil Anderer]

Take a look back at the last 20 or 30 postings MG made and you will see that the vast majority of them if not all were aimed at CC.

Not disputing that; doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[bill ding]

Don't know MG but he does seem to have a strong dislike shall we say to CC , maybe some history between them but it doesn't make good reading !

[black morse]

If neither of the two new owners have serious funds how are they going to finance the club over the next two years? As I said in an earlier post, something doesn't seem right about this whole saga. I wonder if there is some plan that will lead to chunks of the land surrounding the stadium being sold off and even the covenant on the ground being challenged to enable that to be sold? The two new owners seem to have the skills to attempt this- one is an expert on covenant advice and one in buying and selling real estate. If this worrying scenario is untrue then the board should explain how the club is going to be financed over the next two years including where the two new owners are going to get the funds from and explain how the club and its assets are to be maintained for Morecambe Football Club and are not to make money for any individuals. We need communication to reassure us that moving forward everything is being done for the benefit of our beloved club.

I think at this stage we have to take the new owner's word. They have done more of the 'right things' so far than other recent 'owners' and been prepared to stand up and say they know little about running a football club but are prepared to put up the funds. Would the pitch be being worked on if they hadn't provided some finance? They have no obligation to say to all and sundry how they intend to finance the club.

[paschahound]

I have to say I know his views have a tendency to be in the minority on here, but a minority of the responses he gets do tend towards the bullying end. Having experienced bullying at many points during my life, I would never condone that, even if he is at times inviting, shall we say, 'strong' responses.
.

+1

Well said.

[marky No.1]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

And you weren't one of the 2 (Bare Grills and Morecambe Geek) , I am sure CC knows who you are
Whenever Morecambe Geek makes a post it is nothing to do with MFC but is aimed directly and in a nasty bullying way at CC.

I blame Rod

Neil,
You do talk a load of tripe at times, usually I won't respond but on this occasion I feel compelled to do so.

[morecambegeek]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

And you weren't one of the 2 (Bare Grills and Morecambe Geek) , I am sure CC knows who you are
Whenever Morecambe Geek makes a post it is nothing to do with MFC but is aimed directly and in a nasty bullying way at CC.

Delighted to be linked with CC's departure, but if my 6 posts this year have contributed to him leaving the board, he needs to get a thicker skin.

[BerlinWaller]

These are reasons why so few members post on here and increasing numbers are posting on the Face Book site for Morecambe FC. where there are no pen names , if someone says something to you they do it under their real name.

They can still be nasty though, real name or alias, from the relative comfort of their keyboard and touchscreen. I recently stopped using Facebook for the foreseeable future, partly because of this, and my relationship with Shrimpsvoices is also on a tightrope thanks to the attitude of some members, both directly and indirectly.

How do you feel about chucking threatening pm's at people Big John L? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds

[BerlinWaller]

Anyway ,back to Mr child, I am one of the people that picks him up on things, but I am never personally insulting , and I am also bemused by the fact that he goes off sulking whenever challenged about "facts" from people , I'm not a keyboard warrior, and I don't hide behind my user name, my name is Lee Clarke and I don't give a f### who knows it.

You is well hard

[Little Shrimp]

Aside from it being generally quite unpleasant reading the personal attacks on here, it really is incredibly boring.

People come on here to read people's opinions on games/club matters etc, and just for general news a lot too as our club is so crap at keeping us informed; especially important for those that don't live nearby/can't make games. Instead, I just see ridiculous, petty, personal assaults (mainly on CC) and it's unpleasant, depressing and boring to read.

You're all grown adults, but it honestly feels like I'm looking on a forum full of primary school children sometimes.

On topic:
I think PMG draws a parallel with Arsene Wenger, did an amazing job at first and then just stayed on a bit too long, started to make some bad calls and cocked things up a bit (a lot), tainting what should have been a fantastic legacy.

[Bare Grills]

I think at this stage we have to take the new owner's word. They have done more of the 'right things' so far than other recent 'owners' and been prepared to stand up and say they know little about running a football club but are prepared to put up the funds. Would the pitch be being worked on if they hadn't provided some finance? They have no obligation to say to all and sundry how they intend to finance the club.

No, they don't have to say but unless they do, we'll continue to speculate until we touch a nerve and get another lecture From a business point of view, it has to be the strangest acquisition and the timing, well, crazy.

The week before we know if we're staying in the league or not, they buy the majority shares. A few days later and they could have lost a lot of money on their value, they were very lucky. They've invested in a Ltd company hemorrhaging money from every orifice and their job is to make sure the club have money to pay the wages & bills.

Where's the money coming from and why

[Heysham_red]

On topic:
I think PMG draws a parallel with Arsene Wenger, did an amazing job at first and then just stayed on a bit too long, started to make some bad calls and cocked things up a bit (a lot), tainting what should have been a fantastic legacy.

I think that’s a good comparison, and like Wenger probably still thinks he can turn it arround.

Aside from it being generally quite unpleasant reading the personal attacks on here, it really is incredibly boring.

People come on here to read people's opinions on games/club matters etc, and just for general news a lot too as our club is so crap at keeping us informed; especially important for those that don't live nearby/can't make games. Instead, I just see ridiculous, petty, personal assaults (mainly on CC) and it's unpleasant, depressing and boring to read.

You're all grown adults, but it honestly feels like I'm looking on a forum full of primary school children sometimes.

Whilst you are right about some of this. I can’t quite fully agree. Has anyone ever wondered why it’s always CC? He plays the victim well but is often the antagonist and that gets boring. I don’t know CC but he winds me up and I bite. The reason I post and come on here less often is actually because of him.

[marky No.1]

Personally until someone or something happens to change my mind i dont think the new owners motives appear to have been affected by whether we are a L2 Club or not. Can only wait for either the fans forum or the gala draw, whichever comes first for the next snippet of info.
I really hope somethings happens to prove these thoughts wrong.
Seemingly Carlisle make a decision tomorrow, so that might get the ball rolling

[al1]

COME BACK CC,we need you! you are one of the few people on here that keep this message board going.