Jim contender for carlisle sky sports

[bill ding]

Good

[black morse]

Good

What he said

[marky No.1]

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-u ... c7502a0-ds

[Heysham_red]

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-utd/latest/article/Carlisle-Utd-staying-tight-lipped-on-manager-hunt-88921785-2e0f-44bc-8ee9-20d53c7502a0-ds

So basically no news at all...

I Don’t see him leaving livingstone for Carlisle. His stock is higher than that. But I have been wrong in the past.

[marky No.1]

So basically no news at all....

That statement sums it all up....

Livingstone wont be contenders at the top of the Scottish League, but Carlisle have the potential, certainly for promotion.

[Gone_Shrimping]

So basically no news at all....

That statement sums it all up....

Livingstone wont be contenders at the top of the Scottish League, but Carlisle have the potential, certainly for promotion.

And would Jim or any self respecting manager that is already employed with 2 years left on their contract go somewhere that they were only 2nd or 3rd choice for the job ?

[BerlinWaller]

Would you swap the chance of going to Ibrox and Park head for a reduced budget, fans revolting League 2 club?

[al1]

Stuart McCall now a contender.

[BoroRedShrimp]

According to their rag no one has a clue apart from the chairman. May be Jim is still in the running. If he has gone on holiday that maybe to talk all this through with his family.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-u ... cbfb108-ds

[black morse]

According to their rag no one has a clue apart from the chairman. May be Jim is still in the running. If he has gone on holiday that maybe to talk all this through with his family.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-u ... cbfb108-ds

More likely to recover from another exhausting season!

[NPL Daze]

A very interesting read on the latest situation:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44238473

[BoroRedShrimp]

According to their rag no one has a clue apart from the chairman. May be Jim is still in the running. If he has gone on holiday that maybe to talk all this through with his family.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-u ... cbfb108-ds

More likely to recover from another exhausting season!

Maybe both reasons then. I can accept it if Jim leaves for new pastures but some cannot. If he stays fair enough & if he goes we move on. Simple really.

[black morse]

According to their rag no one has a clue apart from the chairman. May be Jim is still in the running. If he has gone on holiday that maybe to talk all this through with his family.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-u ... cbfb108-ds

More likely to recover from another exhausting season!

Maybe both reasons then. I can accept it if Jim leaves for new pastures but some cannot. If he stays fair enough & if he goes we move on. Simple really.

I think we can all accept if he decides to go but some of us do not want him to go.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Maybe both reasons then. I can accept it if Jim leaves for new pastures but some cannot. If he stays fair enough & if he goes we move on. Simple really. [/quote]

I think we can all accept if he decides to go but some of us do not want him to go.[/quote]

Well thats your opinion & I have said mine. Personally we have gone stale as a club. we don't seem to be moving foward in the right direction in different areas & my opinion is a change may be best. Jim is a legend & I and many others appreciate the hard work he has done but with attendances dropping every season it may be the time for a change, but again that is just my opinion, everybody else will have their own.

[NPL Daze]

Well thats your opinion & I have said mine. Personally we have gone stale as a club. we don't seem to be moving foward in the right direction in different areas & my opinion is a change may be best. Jim is a legend & I and many others appreciate the hard work he has done but with attendances dropping every season it may be the time for a change, but again that is just my opinion, everybody else will have their own.

Have I really just read this.....???

How have we been able to move forward with everything being up in the air and uncertain times etc etc....

You know as well as everybody else the saga of the past 24 months unless you've been living on Planet Zog.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Well thats your opinion & I have said mine. Personally we have gone stale as a club. we don't seem to be moving foward in the right direction in different areas & my opinion is a change may be best. Jim is a legend & I and many others appreciate the hard work he has done but with attendances dropping every season it may be the time for a change, but again that is just my opinion, everybody else will have their own.

Have I really just read this.....???

How have we been able to move forward with everything being up in the air and uncertain times etc etc....

You know as well as everybody else the saga of the past 24 months unless you've been living on Planet Zog.

I understand that there is a lot of uncertainty regarding the clubs future & ownership & it is very frustrating however I also see that last season many including me saw with their eyes open some negative frustrating football at the Globe when we had a few decent crowds. Unless we change that style of play & entertain the fans then yes we will be like this for the forseeable future with frustrating attendances & no money to buy players. Unless crowds increase we are on a slippery slope to disaster. We have of yet to see if these two new dudes are genuine, nothing is yet in black & white. Jim has been one of the best centre halfs in lower league football but my opinion as manager is not the same unfortunately & no matter what people say that is my view for the time being. Things have to change by the new kids on the block but unless we see positivity off the field we will continue to struggle as well as on it. Sometimes you cannot always blame your tools & to be fair the squad we had last season wasn't too bad but it was the team selection what was frustrating, leaving players out that would have made a difference in 90 minutes. Fleming & Wildig just two to mention. So it is not always down to problems within the club their is a bigger picture sometimes. You don't see other teams whinging about it they get on with it regardless of what they have got. Accrington many years back where in the same boat as us but they just got on with it & look were they are now thanks to better financial support. Hopefully that will be us but I ain't holding my breath. A player who has done extremely well in the reserves is Gomes & I hope like many that have now gone that he gets regular first team starts because this lad can go so much further than on the bench. We will see what happens but again the younger players need a run out or their is no point in having a reserve team. These are the two things that I see differently to theirs regarding Jim. Again this is my view & many others will see different.

[Shrimpy]

it is not always down to problems within the club their is a bigger picture sometimes. You don't see other teams whinging about it they get on with it regardless of what they have got.

I have a real issue with this. Accringtons success has been a huge issue this season, everyone holding them up as an example and saying "why aren't we doing that" but refuse to acknowledge the fact that Jim has kept us in this division whilst much bigger clubs with larger resources like Chesterfield, Barnet, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, York, Tranmere, Bristol Rovers and others have all gone down whilst Jim has been in charge.

Jim's job as manager shouldn't be compared with John Colemans at Accrington and him labelled as a failure or under achieving if he doesn't emulate their success. His performance as manager should be judged on his ability to get us finishing above the list of teams that have gone down whilst we've survived.

[Trevor]

"Accrington many years back where in the same boat as us but they just got on with it & look were they are now thanks to better financial support."

When we were in same boat we did as well as them over the seasons. Last few years our financal support has gone down the pan theres has got loads better. Its pretty simple really. and as for blaming tools - yeah you cant always use that as an excuse but come on! If ever you can point to that as a reason, its been our club these past few season's - be fair.

[BoroRedShrimp]

it is not always down to problems within the club their is a bigger picture sometimes. You don't see other teams whinging about it they get on with it regardless of what they have got.

I have a real issue with this. Accringtons success has been a huge issue this season, everyone holding them up as an example and saying "why aren't we doing that" but refuse to acknowledge the fact that Jim has kept us in this division whilst much bigger clubs with larger resources like Chesterfield, Barnet, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, York, Tranmere, Bristol Rovers and others have all gone down whilst Jim has been in charge.

Jim's job as manager shouldn't be compared with John Colemans at Accrington and him labelled as a failure or under achieving if he doesn't emulate their success. His performance as manager should be judged on his ability to get us finishing above the list of teams that have gone down whilst we've survived.

You are being pathetic. I hold Accrington Stanley to show an example that with the right guidance you can achieve success, big or small. Accrington started off like us with Coley working on a shoe string & at one stage they could have gone bang but they didn't & in the end they got a new owner to go one better. I look at that as a possible way we may get out of this mess with the right backing. Coley will always be a legend at Morecambe & yes I am see him as a decent manager, that is all. I haven't labelled Jim a failure I just don't see him in the same regard as you. He has kept us up but I don't like his style of football at times or his team selection towards the end of the season that is all. I couldn't care less about bigger teams that have gone down before us I am more interested how we do on it in 90 minutes. I don't expect us to romp the league but more entertainment on it brings more bigger gates at the Globe arena. I feel we have not moved forward enough on the pitch & off but hopefully with these two new owners, things may change on it & off it. I will be happy if we finish mid table with entertaining football next season. Sorry that you don't feel me & others can have an opinion over Jim but that is my own view & I will say it how I want.

[NPL Daze]

You are being pathetic. I hold Accrington Stanley to show an example that with the right guidance you can achieve success, big or small. Accrington started off like us with Coley working on a shoe string & at one stage they could have gone bang but they didn't & in the end they got a new owner to go one better. I look at that as a possible way we may get out of this mess with the right backing. Coley will always be a legend at Morecambe & yes I am see him as a decent manager, that is all. I haven't labelled Jim a failure I just don't see him in the same regard as you. He has kept us up but I don't like his style of football at times or his team selection towards the end of the season that is all. I couldn't care less about bigger teams that have gone down before us I am more interested how we do on it in 90 minutes. I don't expect us to romp the league but more entertainment on it brings more bigger gates at the Globe arena. I feel we have not moved forward enough on the pitch & off but hopefully with these two new owners we may surprise a few teams. I will be happy if we finish mid table with entertaining football next season. Sorry that you don't feel me & others can have an opinion over Jim but that is my own view & I will say it how I want.

Reel your neck in.

Shrimpy's quote of: " His performance as manager should be judged on his ability to get us finishing above the list of teams that have gone down whilst we've survived." - hits it on the head bang on. Perfect.

How the hell Jim manages to keep us in League 2 every season, season after season, on a budget reportedly smaller than some clubs in Conference North is nothing but a miracle.

How the hell do you expect us to push for promotion/play offs when we're relying on (let's face it) real bargain basement players (with absolutely no disrespect to the squad, because you know EXACTLY what I mean).

Ok, so sometimes the football isn't the best to watch - but we have survived yet another battle and will play in the Football League again next season. Chesterfield, with gates of average 5000+, will not play in the Football League.

[bill ding]

+1

[Shrimpy]

it is not always down to problems within the club their is a bigger picture sometimes. You don't see other teams whinging about it they get on with it regardless of what they have got.

I have a real issue with this. Accringtons success has been a huge issue this season, everyone holding them up as an example and saying "why aren't we doing that" but refuse to acknowledge the fact that Jim has kept us in this division whilst much bigger clubs with larger resources like Chesterfield, Barnet, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, York, Tranmere, Bristol Rovers and others have all gone down whilst Jim has been in charge.

Jim's job as manager shouldn't be compared with John Colemans at Accrington and him labelled as a failure or under achieving if he doesn't emulate their success. His performance as manager should be judged on his ability to get us finishing above the list of teams that have gone down whilst we've survived.

You are being pathetic. I hold Accrington Stanley to show an example that with the right guidance you can achieve success, big or small. Accrington started off like us with Coley working on a shoe string & at one stage they could have gone bang but they didn't & in the end they got a new owner to go one better. I look at that as a possible way we may get out of this mess with the right backing.

But you say you want Jim to leave. By your own argument that also means you think Coley should have been sacked at Accrington before Andy Holt arrived.

My argument (and I assume others) is that I think Jim is brilliant and with the right backing he could achieve similar results to John Coleman has at Accrington so getting rid of him would be absolutely bonkers.

[NPL Daze]

My argument (and I assume others) is that I think Jim is brilliant and with the right backing he could achieve similar results to John Coleman has at Accrington so getting rid of him would be absolutely bonkers.

+1 and also +1 for every other Shrimps Voices member with an ounce of sense.

Well said sir.

[BoroRedShrimp]

You are being pathetic. I hold Accrington Stanley to show an example that with the right guidance you can achieve success, big or small. Accrington started off like us with Coley working on a shoe string & at one stage they could have gone bang but they didn't & in the end they got a new owner to go one better. I look at that as a possible way we may get out of this mess with the right backing. Coley will always be a legend at Morecambe & yes I am see him as a decent manager, that is all. I haven't labelled Jim a failure I just don't see him in the same regard as you. He has kept us up but I don't like his style of football at times or his team selection towards the end of the season that is all. I couldn't care less about bigger teams that have gone down before us I am more interested how we do on it in 90 minutes. I don't expect us to romp the league but more entertainment on it brings more bigger gates at the Globe arena. I feel we have not moved forward enough on the pitch & off but hopefully with these two new owners we may surprise a few teams. I will be happy if we finish mid table with entertaining football next season. Sorry that you don't feel me & others can have an opinion over Jim but that is my own view & I will say it how I want.

Reel your neck in.

Shrimpy's quote of: " His performance as manager should be judged on his ability to get us finishing above the list of teams that have gone down whilst we've survived." - hits it on the head bang on. Perfect.

How the hell Jim manages to keep us in League 2 every season, season after season, on a budget reportedly smaller than some clubs in Conference North is nothing but a miracle.

How the hell do you expect us to push for promotion/play offs when we're relying on (let's face it) real bargain basement players (with absolutely no disrespect to the squad, because you know EXACTLY what I mean).


Ok, so sometimes the football isn't the best to watch - but we have survived yet another battle and will play in the Football League again next season. Chesterfield, with gates of average 5000+, will not play in the Football League.

Reel your neck in as well pal. You are another who wants to jump down fans throats because they have a slightly different view over the season to you. I didn't say we should be in the top three or in the play offs did I? No I am stating that our football was dreadful in parts & team selection was poor from time to time. Other fans have mentioned this as well. However every season we have the same mistakes that we had the following season & never get rectified or if they do the players carry on. I do have the respect that Jim has kept us up but in the same way we need to learn from the mistakes that have carried on season after season. The squad we had last season underachieved because you say bargain players but hardly bargain with the quality of Wylde, Lavelle, Lang & McGurk who was once a quality product at Burton Albion. I don't feel we had a bad squad last season but more who was in the starting 11 that bothered me & a few others. I have the up most respect for Jim as a captain & player but thats all. I respect him that we stayed up by the skin of our teeth but I that is all. I have a different view to you so lets leave it at that before Keith jumps in.

[BoroRedShrimp]

But you say you want Jim to leave. By your own argument that also means you think Coley should have been sacked at Accrington before Andy Holt arrived.

My argument (and I assume others) is that I think Jim is brilliant and with the right backing he could achieve similar results to John Coleman has at Accrington so getting rid of him would be absolutely bonkers.

How can you say that when you have no proof that Jim could do as well as John Coleman without the right backing. You maybe right or may wrong but Unless Jim has the money/backing we will never know so to come out with that statement is not true mate. You are saying things that I have not mentioned about Coley & Andy Holt only Jim. Now I can see why people stop coming on here because people have to agree with everybody else.