IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

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Postby halfwayprawn » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:55 pm

Come on,Berlin Waller,were are you,you could write an essay after today :lol: .
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby MfcChris » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:44 pm

With so many awful performances it is going down to the last game again!
I would take some of our 19 draws from last season right now :cry:
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:07 pm

halfwayprawn wrote:Come on,Berlin Waller,were are you,you could write an essay after today :lol: .


Yeah I could do but what's the point? Like Posh says, nothing will change so just sit back and enjoy the rut lads.
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby Ispyshrimp » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:39 pm

I think today was a massive worry for lots of reasons

Playing Oliver again is a massive concern which most fans are puzzled with, thought his work rate again was ok but he just can't score, the effort when he did some sort of acrobatics instead of heading it 1st half was baffling, playing a full game, again baffling
the excuse of having players settle in is also a concern, its ok settling them in till Nov/Oct but we could be in deep water by then,

I thought the game was quite evenly matched 1st half although i also thought Swindon weren't that good, poor passing and control of the ball.

2nd half i thought we woul step it up a gear and go for it, it can be hard to play against 10 men but we made it look hard as well, plenty of times we stopped and looked around when manderville was out wide, at times IMO we looked to walk the ball in the net, Manderville pulled off a cracking goal last week but then tries to walk it in the net. why not make them work hard, chase the ball, at times we lose possession and they almost score. the pitch was soaked so why not try and test the keep from outside the box, look other teams have against us and scored.

feel totally puzzled and TBH grateful results below went in our favour as 1 win/6 loses from 7 games is shocking. we have quite a good team on paper but they are not playing as we would hope and i think this is down to the formation and lack of confidence.

Something needs to change as sooner or later those around us will pick up points and leave us behind, i know people are saying more time but dont forget we had a poor end to last season and picked up no points hardly.

also sick of the kiss arse interviewing on radio Lancashire, ask questions fans want to hear not oh well Jim, another hard day, another unfortunate match, the fans are enjoying the style of football, really!!! how about why the hell are you playing a player who is not in form, who couldnt score in a Sunday league match, when you have others who have been scoring last season. we need points soon!
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Postby Duffman » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:56 pm

Ispyshrimp wrote:also sick of the kiss arse interviewing on radio Lancashire, ask questions fans want to hear not oh well Jim, another hard day, another unfortunate match, the fans are enjoying the style of football, really!!! how about why the hell are you playing a player who is not in form, who couldnt score in a Sunday league match, when you have others who have been scoring last season. we need points soon!


Post match interviews are done by Quinny, an employee of the club. The questions will always be like that. I can't think of many (if any) interviews he's done that haven't been conducted by someone from the club. It's frustrating that he'll never be questioned about team selection, tactics, substitutions or whether he fears about his future like any other manager at a football club would. I do wonder if it wasn't Jim in charge whether the "questions" would be the same.
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby Phil Anderer » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:35 pm

bill ding wrote:
Phil Anderer wrote:The way we're playing I'd be disappointed if we don't score at least 2 in the 2nd half.[/quote

I guess you are disappointed then ?? :(


We didn't keep playing that way. 2nd half, one down against 10 men, we took our foot off the gas and made it easy for them. Don't think 'disappointed' quite covers it.
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby Phil Anderer » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:39 pm

MfcChris wrote:With so many awful performances it is going down to the last game again!
I would take some of our 19 draws from last season right now :cry:


Unless we start getting some points on the board, I fear it'll be over long before the last game.
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Postby John L » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:59 pm

Posh wrote:Whether you want Jim to stay or not I think he’s got two matches left to prove he can turn it around.

For those wanting him out though I think the leadership off the pitch is far worse. Two long-distance owners, a clueless Chairman and some local directors with no power. So, don’t expect any bold moves.



I hope you're right on the first of those points. Just how much more decline and disappointment do we have to put up with before games become more entertaining and results improve?

As regards the owners, it concerns me that if they leave Jim & Ken to it and results don't improve, then their true intentions will be to run the club out of business and redevelop the land.
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:09 pm

John L wrote:
Posh wrote:Whether you want Jim to stay or not I think he’s got two matches left to prove he can turn it around.

For those wanting him out though I think the leadership off the pitch is far worse. Two long-distance owners, a clueless Chairman and some local directors with no power. So, don’t expect any bold moves.



I hope you're right on the first of those points. Just how much more decline and disappointment do we have to put up with before games become more entertaining and results improve?

As regards the owners, it concerns me that if they leave Jim & Ken to it and results don't improve, then their true intentions will be to run the club out of business and redevelop the land.


I would say 2 weeks today is the real acid test. Macclesfield at home. If the result is the same as today all the excuses in the world won't wash.
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Postby Posh » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:30 pm

John L wrote:
Posh wrote:Whether you want Jim to stay or not I think he’s got two matches left to prove he can turn it around.

For those wanting him out though I think the leadership off the pitch is far worse. Two long-distance owners, a clueless Chairman and some local directors with no power. So, don’t expect any bold moves.



I hope you're right on the first of those points. Just how much more decline and disappointment do we have to put up with before games become more entertaining and results improve?

As regards the owners, it concerns me that if they leave Jim & Ken to it and results don't improve, then their true intentions will be to run the club out of business and redevelop the land.


As Gone Shrimping has said, the reason I said two games was the second one against Macclesfield. They’ve been poor and without a win, nothing but a win will be good enough.

As for the new owners, I agree entirely. If the board think Jim deserves more time then make some public comment and say that you back him and try and get everyone to back him in turning it around. I just expect the usual tumbleweed.

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Postby fulwoodshrimp » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:57 am

Steadily our decline continues with a management team that doesn't seem to deal in any form of tactics and a board that stay silent as we slide inevitably to non-league football. No comment from owners who have invested considerable money in the club and whose motives are coming under the spotlight. Are they interested in the football or the land? Jimbo has been a brilliant servant of the club but more and more in my opinion he seems out of his depth unable to halt the decline. An increased playing budget hasn't produced improved results but the same mediocrity. Failure to defeat Macclesfield will surely be a key moment.
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Postby sandgrown » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:29 am

John L wrote:
Posh wrote:Whether you want Jim to stay or not I think he’s got two matches left to prove he can turn it around.

For those wanting him out though I think the leadership off the pitch is far worse. Two long-distance owners, a clueless Chairman and some local directors with no power. So, don’t expect any bold moves.



I hope you're right on the first of those points. Just how much more decline and disappointment do we have to put up with before games become more entertaining and results improve?

As regards the owners, it concerns me that if they leave Jim & Ken to it and results don't improve, then their true intentions will be to run the club out of business and redevelop the land.


that was my worry from day one with them :evil:
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby Keith » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:03 pm

Firstly I'm not making excuses, and definitely not making any excuse for an appalling second half but a couple of the 'fine margins'.

Firstly, it should never have been a free kick that led to their goal. Fleming (I think) controlled the ball superbly. Yes, his foot was high, but the defender was nowhere near to playing the ball, so it wasn't dangerous. Their lad shouted "ref", loud enough for us to hear it, and signalled that the foot was high, and the ref gave the free kick. Teams with clever/experienced players do that. I said the other week that we don't appeal and the iFollow lads disagreed. But watch them, every 50:50 the opposition appeal the the ref, we then 'appeal' after the free kick has been given. This was a classic example of the ref being conned. Hoof down the other end of the pitch and we're 1-0 down. In the second half, a defender kicked the ball at the same height directly in front of Oliver in the area, but nothing given, or asked for.

A few minutes after they scored, Oliver was clearly having his shirt pulled while in the area. Nothing given. Second half, he was pushed in the back while going for a cross, nothing given. Kev, or another experienced player would have fallen over when being pulled back or pushed. I don't like to see that in football, but everyone else does it, so we need to. If the ref had got those decisions right, they wouldn't have scored and we'd have had two penalties.

In general though, first half I thought we were excellent for most of the 45 minutes and were unlucky to be losing at half time. Second half, we'd forgotten that we'd changed shirts :( How many of our passes went straight to their players? Too narrow, to cautious. Fleming I thought recently was getting his form back but yesterday, he was back to 'trap the ball, turn 360 degrees, pass ball backwards or sideways (or give it away)' AJ (who is excellent) but should have shot in the first half when clean through, but instead passed the ball behind Oliver, who had to check his run, then try and take a couple of touches before getting a chance to score, it was a dreadful pass. And yet another superb save from a visiting goalkeeper. Mind you, three great saves from Bad in the second half, when their ten men out played, out fought and out thought our eleven.

We're either going to thrash someone soon, or be relegated by Christmas. I hope it's a thrashing someone, and quickly!

PS How that game was allowed to start with those kits clashing? Notice the officials had to change kits too, because they started in blue?
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Re: IFOllow thread v The Robins from the Globe

Postby halfwayprawn » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:06 pm

Surely the ref must be marked down for allowing the teams to have kits that similar, plus his inept reffing of the match.
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