Your opinions on Mandeville

Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby CityShrimp » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:28 pm

Fitness was maybe an issue when he arrived. As Marky says, he looked leggy and knackered playing at Crewe but his fitness seemed to build quickly after that.

Despite our poor league position, we’ve generally played good football on the deck which suits a player like Mandeville. I can imagine if he was put in a very physical game and starved of passes to his feet, he’d struggle.

No complaints to make of him so far, and I suspect we might even be yet to see the best of him.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Slanester » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:31 pm

When Mande steps on that pitch,it is a case of what level of good we get. For me “ good” is his absolute base line, and upward from there. What more can a manager or supporter ask of a player. There was obviously something well amiss with his management at Doncaster, well done again,that top man Jim Bentley.
Not sure I agree with him having any issue with physicality in games, all pretty tough in Lge2.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby redrobo » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:49 pm

Looked upset when he was taken off but he's shown to date that he's a cut above many other EFL 2 midfielders and as much as I'd love him to stay come June i suspect he will be off to pastures new BUT will he become just a squad player used sparingly or prefer a regular place in our developing team?
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:21 pm

marky No.1 wrote:He was clearly unfit when he came here, the Crewe game highlighted that but we were collectively crap that day anyway. Jim is good at handling "lost" players and you can now see a confident Mandy who never stops running for the cause.
You can see he's enjoying it here and will probably know the consequences of stepping out of line.
Hopefully we can hang onto him for an extended period


I think you are safe Marky you have him till the end of the season. I don't see him coming back to Donny or staying at Morecambe it will be a 1st div team or a championship side planning for the future JB seems to have turned him around.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby marky No.1 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:54 pm

alick is my hero wrote:
marky No.1 wrote:He was clearly unfit when he came here, the Crewe game highlighted that but we were collectively crap that day anyway. Jim is good at handling "lost" players and you can now see a confident Mandy who never stops running for the cause.
You can see he's enjoying it here and will probably know the consequences of stepping out of line.
Hopefully we can hang onto him for an extended period


I think you are safe Marky you have him till the end of the season. I don't see him coming back to Donny or staying at Morecambe it will be a 1st div team or a championship side planning for the future JB seems to have turned him around.


Yes I know its till the end of the season, I meant for another year. Only thing for me with him is that he should release the ball a bit quicker and have a shot around the edge of the box, rather than being guided sideways by the defender.
Jim also told him a couple of weeks ago to "slow down"
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:12 pm

marky No.1 wrote:
alick is my hero wrote:
marky No.1 wrote:He was clearly unfit when he came here, the Crewe game highlighted that but we were collectively crap that day anyway. Jim is good at handling "lost" players and you can now see a confident Mandy who never stops running for the cause.
You can see he's enjoying it here and will probably know the consequences of stepping out of line.
Hopefully we can hang onto him for an extended period


I think you are safe Marky you have him till the end of the season. I don't see him coming back to Donny or staying at Morecambe it will be a 1st div team or a championship side planning for the future JB seems to have turned him around.


Yes I know its till the end of the season, I meant for another year. Only thing for me with him is that he should release the ball a bit quicker and have a shot around the edge of the box, rather than being guided sideways by the defender.
Jim also told him a couple of weeks ago to "slow down"


Marky, if he was my son and aged about 28 I would suggest he stays at Morecambe where he obviously enjoys it. Football is a very short career and at 21 I can see him, in time, in the Championship. As you say I too would like him to shoot more as I have seen him score fantastic goals and one in particular stands out in my mind from a free kick!

I said ealier in the thread that Mandy had a problem with McCormick GK with Swindon Town. It was from that incident when he missed a penalty Mandy went down hill. It just so happends I went to your game against Swindon and I would have loved it if Mandy had scored the winner and then insulted McCormick just the same as he did to Mandy.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby John L » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:55 pm

He's not the only one who has a problem with McCormick... :evil:
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Keith » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:01 pm

He's definitely grown in to the season and as others have said, despite results, we've been playing some really nice, neat football. As the players are gaining more awareness of each other, as a team, we're continuing to improve. The style is suiting Mandeville. That said, other players have been improving too. In my opinion, on Saturday, Oates was much better than Mandeville. That's not to say he had a poor game, simply not as good as some around him. We've also got players like Mills, who is my player of the season so far, playing really well. I think this may benefit Mandeville, as he won't have any 'Billy big-bollocks' attitude, and he's going to remain focussed. I certainly hope we manage to sign him permanently come the end of the season. Jim Bentley has saved a fair few careers and turned players around. It would be nice to have one who is young enough that we get a bit more out of them, then maybe even some cash in 18 months time!
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby redrobo » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:12 pm

Mandy's all round game has improved 100% from when we first saw him. He wasn't that effective when tracking back and trying to win the ball back. Now for a creative midfielder he's become more effective in tracking back and his tenacity to win the ball back is commendable considering how he was unable to do before. He's certainly become a team player, which is something that Jim and Co have always been able to get new recruits to become despite their possible reputations.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:26 pm

Was Mandy off form today?

If he wasn't injured then why take off a player that could set up goal chances, I don't really understand why he was subbed?

Perhaps someone could shed some light on why he was subbed.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:47 pm

alick is my hero wrote:Was Mandy off form today?

If he wasn't injured then why take off a player that could set up goal chances, I don't really understand why he was subbed?

Perhaps someone could shed some light on why he was subbed.


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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby CityShrimp » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:24 am

He did ok, I was a tad surprised that he came off.

We were struggling to break Halifax down, so he and AJ ended up coming very deep to get onto the ball which wasn’t working, hence I guess putting Ellison and Oswell on to go more direct.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby glagys » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:28 am

Thought he had a poor game and was targeted by Halifax who were kicking him all the time
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby KenH » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:35 am

He may not have been having his best game, but we went downhill after he came off. Even on a bad day, he's better than others.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Slanester » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:16 pm

glagys wrote:Thought he had a poor game and was targeted by Halifax who were kicking him all the time


Halifax had done their homework with regard Mandeville, and he certainly came in for some “heavy tackles.” For me, he still had a decent game, and always has the potential to do something a bit special. The lad doesn’t know how to have a “poor” game. Should never be subbed, except for injury or rest reasons, in my opinion. He just carries that threat at any stage.

KenH wrote:He may not have been having his best game, but we went downhill after he came off. Even on a bad day, he's better than others.


Totally agree KH.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Freez » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:09 pm

Odelusi should have been booked in the first fifteen minutes for a very late tackle on Mandy, he did the same in the second half to get booked, should have been off!
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:31 pm

With Oates going off injured, Mandy became even more vital for us. We ended up with a 40yr old and a slow target man on the wings.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Freez » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:18 pm

TBF, Ajay went right wing and Oswell down the middle, but Kev stayed left, but they all moved around to create space, but it didn't make much difference. Oates and Mandy were missed!
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:20 pm

Freez wrote:TBF, Ajay went right wing and Oswell down the middle, but Kev stayed left, but they all moved around to create space, but it didn't make much difference. Oates and Mandy were missed!


That was in the last 10 mins tbf
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby redrobo » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:58 pm

Halifax certainly realised that our creativity in midfield was Mandy and from the first minute earmarked him for some rough treatment. It wasn't unexpected however but as others have said as soon as he went off we lost direction and allowed Halifax to be more influential in midfield than they had been.

Oates was injured and had to come off to mitigate and serious injury.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:54 pm

redrobo wrote:Halifax certainly realised that our creativity in midfield was Mandy and from the first minute earmarked him for some rough treatment. It wasn't unexpected however but as others have said as soon as he went off we lost direction and allowed Halifax to be more influential in midfield than they had been.

Oates was injured and had to come off to mitigate and serious injury.


Something I like about Mandy is he never ducks the rough stuff which is rare for a flair player. He takes plenty of knocks but always gets back up on his feet without causing a fuss.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Freez » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:08 pm

He's got a good temperament, and seems settled and enjoying his football, getting picked every week.
He was wanting the ball all game and doesn't shirk responsibility.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:48 pm

Thanks to all you guys for the feed back on Mandy. I thought I would give you the opinion of one of our supporters view on Mandy bearing in mind he hasn't seen him play for 18months.

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Crickey Mandeville must be Messi in disguise.
Get him back ASAP, we can win the league with him in our team.

By the way, according to a report I read, he went off after trying to make a tackle, fouled their player and got injured himself.

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This was my reply:

Why the sarcasm XXXXXX ? Out of all the positive comments made about Mandy and you have to pick on one that is not.

You almost sound as you don't like it that Mandy has done well at Morecambe. The kid is not coming back couldn't you just put the sarcasm to one side and wish the kid well, he's one of our own after all.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Slanester » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:23 am

What a childish and pathetic response from the Donny supporter. Always plenty of them.....I know best, always right,can’t tell me anything supporters. Aimo, you are posting the veiws of a number of Morecambe fans, mostly positive, and for some strange reason, he doesn’t like it?? Mande is after all, a Doncaster player on loan. That said, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
Not sure where he got the report about the foul and injury situation, didn’t look like that to me, but will stand corrected.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:30 am

Below is the reason Mandy will not be coming back to Donny:

XXXXX was asked would he like to see Mandy play for Donny again?

Yes I would, but he won’t because IMO he isnt good enough for L1.
His good spell for us was in L2 and he is currently in L2 where he is doing ok.
As I have said before, he only ever impressed me in one twenty minute spell when he came on a sub and actually did well.

MY reply:
XXXXXXX,
When did you actually last see Mandy play football? 6/12/18 months ago? Things change fast in football and if you read the comments from Morecambe supporters they don't seem to tie up with your comments in fact they totally disagree. He is 21 with a bright career in front of him and something to prove.

I was at Charlton and I will be at the Wimbledon game even though the team are not playing well and its a 320 mile round journey. From what I have seen and heard from the comments from Morecambe the kid has something to offer our team. But its because of comments like "HE IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH", (and XXXX is one of the good guys), made about him he won't be coming back and I think we lost a gem for whatever reason he was sent out on loan, perhaps he has now seen the light.


I would like to invite any or all Morecambe supporters to join our forum and pass your comments on Mandy. You will see the comments that ensure Mandy will not want to come back to Donny.

www.drfc-vsc.co.uk topic "Mandy is doing ok"
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