Halifax And Beyond

[Rod Taylor]

Good afternoon all, after a miserable evening at The Shay, a subdued drive home, the constant thought of, "did that really happen" and waking up this morning to the reality of being dumped out of the FA Cup, I can reassure you all that this hurts, big style. For me, it isn't about loosing to a National League club, that's FA Cup football, that's why we love the greatest domestic cup competition in the world, it is the manner in which we lost the tie. Jim Bentley has been open and honest, as always, in his radio interview and my feeling is that we were all let down by the performance on the pitch on the night to a side who appeared to want the victory more than we did. I can assure you all that the BOD and our dedicated staff are working extremely hard to improve the club in a variety of areas, from the match-day experience to hospitality and events. We have much to do and that process has started but I would ask for your patience as we prioritise and progress the various initiatives. The financial rewards that could have been earned from last night's tie would have been massive to us but we must still continue to strive for improvement in all areas, on and off the park. I will make further comments and observations in my programme notes this coming Saturday. The priority now is to restore some pride and climb that EFL L2 table, which I feel we are capable of doing. We are all in this together, it is our club, let us all, collectively, help to make the difference! COYS. RT

[marky No.1]

Very frustrating Rod, when our pot is constantly empty, fans and 'staff' moaning we cant buy this and that. 'They' then get an ideal opportunity to show their skills to a worldwide audience and fill the pot somewhat, then they go and fluff it big style.
It's not the first time of course.

Need a reaction on Saturday

[BigRedOne]

Well said Rod, With you in charge we are heading in the right direction.

[Slanester]

Last night summed up to a T RT, very frustrating, but that’s football, at all levels. We have a team that have played far superior to last night, and will do again in the future. They will be as gutted as we are, I’m sure. Go again Sat, 3 points for the taking. Appreciate you taking the time to post.

[Gone_Shrimping]

Thanks for that appraisal Rod.

We are all appreciative of our Co-Chairman posting on here and I'm sure everyone would enjoy contributions from you on here in the future , and hopefully they will be after more favourable results and performances than at Halifax.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

Good to hear from Rod on SV and I know that how ever miserable I felt driving home he was no doubt feeling it more. Not to excuse an insipid first half when we were definitely second best but in both games we had the best of three halves, albeit we couldn't find the net.To put things in context this evening two National League teams are currently beating League 1 teams. It sums it up really and god help us if we went down because it's a hell of a hard league to get promoted out of. Hopefully we can put yesterday behind us and win the annual battle against relegation. Who knows there may be better times ahead with Rod at the helm.

UTS!

[Doonhamer]

If the chairman thinks mr bentleys summing up of the game is fair and accurate then make the big decision. “ it was a sackable performance tonight” or something like that.

[redrobo]

Thanks Rod for taking the time to express your thoughts and feelings. As you say it's time we all worked together to move our club in the right direction. Last night was a bad result but dropping out of the EFL would be even worse.

The first of what I hope becomes a regular posting from the Board. Thank you.

[fulwoodshrimp]

It was good to hear from Rod and like all shrimp fans I appreciate all he does for our club. I don't think the poor performance the other night is entirely the fault of the players. In my opinion the management team need to look at the team they are selecting and the lack of goals the current selections are scoring. Oswell and Pigott have largely been ignored for others who don't look like they are going to score. If we are all in this together they need to seriously reconsider their team selections rather than just blame the players.

[Seasider9601]

If the chairman thinks mr bentleys summing up of the game is fair and accurate then make the big decision. “ it was a sackable performance tonight” or something like that.

^ Give it a rest.

Rod, a brilliant post. Thank you. Good to have you at the helm again sir.

[Keith]

Well said Rod. Obviously, everyone was hurting after Tuesday evening, with yet another whimper of an FA Cup exit. But we need to look forwards again. With real Morecambe fans leading from the top, I'm sure we will see changes happening now. I hope this is the start of more open communication with the fans.

We can achieve if we all pull together (although preferably in the same direction!)

[Doonhamer]

Well said Rod. Obviously, everyone was hurting after Tuesday evening, with yet another whimper of an FA Cup exit. But we need to look forwards again. With real Morecambe fans leading from the top, I'm sure we will see changes happening now. I hope this is the start of more open communication with the fans.

We can achieve if we all pull together (although preferably in the same direction!)

Keith
Why is it when someone has a difference of opinion they are not a real Morecambe fan? We all want the same thing but disagree in the way how it can be achieved does not make those who feel a change of manager is the way forwards’ opinion any less valid or not a real Morecambe fan. The posts on Tuesday were in some instances quite shocking and I complained to you to sort it out.
As a fan you are entitled to your opinion and for others to respect it, as an administrator you should not be posting antagonistic posts that just encourages the small minded minority to respond in somewhat less than a gentlemanly manner as Tuesdays post degraded into . If you believe those who disagree with you are not true fans why not ask at the entry gate if I am a Jim in or out fan. If I say out don’t let me in and only let th 500 or so TRUE fans into the ground. As an admimistrator if you want to antagonise people and not remain neutral pack it in. Your role is that of a TV interviewer to ask appropriate questions not to insult the guests.

[Doonhamer]

If the chairman thinks mr bentleys summing up of the game is fair and accurate then make the big decision. “ it was a sackable performance tonight” or something like that.

^ Give it a rest.

Rod, a brilliant post. Thank you. Good to have you at the helm again sir.

Why don’t you respect my opinion? Is it any less valid than yours? No it’s a difference of opinion.

[redrobo]

I doubt anybody would disagree that all fans are entitled to their own individual opinions. After all I frequently voice my opinion on matters that don't get the full backing of other SVers or even Rod.

However i would hope that it's the manner and language that I use that doesn't seek to be confrontational or aggressive that maybe others should consider is the correct way to put across ones own thoughts on matters that should by their nature be open to a free and healthy discussion.

[Seasider9601]

If the chairman thinks mr bentleys summing up of the game is fair and accurate then make the big decision. “ it was a sackable performance tonight” or something like that.

^ Give it a rest.

Rod, a brilliant post. Thank you. Good to have you at the helm again sir.

Why don’t you respect my opinion? Is it any less valid than yours? No it’s a difference of opinion.

I didn't say I don't respect your opinion. You're entitled to it. Doesn't mean to say I have to agree with it.

[Doonhamer]

Why don’t you respect my opinion? Is it any less valid than yours? No it’s a difference of opinion.[/quote]

I didn't say I don't respect your opinion. You're entitled to it. Doesn't mean to say I have to agree with it.[/quote]

Well all you needed to say was I disagree and not “give it a rest “ which is disrespectful. Look we all know who the Jim in or Jim out forum members are so maybe we should take this as read and not continue to post this as it’s getting boring replying and counter replying. That way all you Jim in fans will not have to read how wrong you are. LOL. No seriously it’s a sensible suggestion

[roogler]

Having read almost every post on here before and since Tuesday 's game it is evident that feelings are running high and that there are , let's say, differing views as to how the management and the team should react. As I see it those who call for a change in management have as much right to do so as those who want them retained - and everyone has the right to say so !

If somehow my right to say I think Mr Benley should go is construed as me not being a Morecambe fan then that is fine. Having spent the last 20 odd years driving a round trip of 250-300 miles to come to games , often on a p***ing wet midweek, spending £££ on entry, programmes, drink, food, draw tickets and occasional hospitality , I can just as easily say sod that and save myself a lot of money -and of course Morecambe FC's bank account - if that's what the "TRUE FANS" want, just say!

I am extremely grateful for Rod coming on here and giving the view from the top. Let's stop slagging each other off at a time when the club needs every body through that gate it can get. However.. if I see something I am not happy with I have the RIGHT to say so, albeit in a Civil way.

[Phil Anderer]

Doonhammer & Roogler, whilst I disagree, at present, over the removal of the management, it doesn't mean I'm exactly happy with everything Morecambe at the moment, although this season's football has undoubtedly been much more entertaining, on average, and I'm still waiting and hoping for results to start reflecting the improvements I can see. I also fully respect your right to a different opinion. I would however say that I think, Doonhammer, you have misinterpreted Keith's post. His reference to 'true Morecambe fans' is specifically a reference to Rod and Graham as co-chairmen, and not a denigration of those with differing opinions. I think if you re-read his post you'll see what I mean.

The passion you have shows you are fans, so let's just agree to disagree for the time being, eh?

[Seasider9601]

I would however say that I think, Doonhammer, you have misinterpreted Keith's post. His reference to 'true Morecambe fans' is specifically a reference to Rod and Graham as co-chairmen, and not a denigration of those with differing opinions. I think if you re-read his post you'll see what I mean.

EXACTLY what I was just going to post too Phil.

What Keith alluded to was in some cases you get new owners parading round in their clubs scarves doing a photo call but, when they've had enough of their "new play thing", they sell up and then not give a tinkers toss about said club.

Oldham Athletic being prime examples of this on more than one occasion.

Keith meant that our co-chairmen are Morecambe through and through.

[Keith]

With real Morecambe fans leading from the top, I'm sure we will see changes happening now. I hope this is the start of more open communication with the fans.

We can achieve if we all pull together (although preferably in the same direction!)

Keith
Why is it when someone has a difference of opinion they are not a real Morecambe fan? We all want the same thing but disagree in the way how it can be achieved does not make those who feel a change of manager is the way forwards’ opinion any less valid or not a real Morecambe fan. The posts on Tuesday were in some instances quite shocking and I complained to you to sort it out.
As a fan you are entitled to your opinion and for others to respect it, as an administrator you should not be posting antagonistic posts that just encourages the small minded minority to respond in somewhat less than a gentlemanly manner as Tuesdays post degraded into . If you believe those who disagree with you are not true fans why not ask at the entry gate if I am a Jim in or out fan. If I say out don’t let me in and only let th 500 or so TRUE fans into the ground. As an admimistrator if you want to antagonise people and not remain neutral pack it in. Your role is that of a TV interviewer to ask appropriate questions not to insult the guests.

Firstly, in a thread started by our new co-Chairman, a man who has been a firm supporter of Morecambe FC for longer than most of us and is a true fan, "real Morecambe fans leading from the top" is a direct reference to Rod & Graham and not a dig at anyone! If you took that as being antagonistic...

Secondly, my role is to administrate the forum, not facilitate conversation. People who post in a manner that I disagree with, I will respond to. I don't censor people who disagree with me, there isn't a party line to be toed. You & others have expressed opinions regarding Jim, I and others have responded to you. I think you are wrong and reserve the right to express my opinion. I haven't ever (as far as I can recall) said that anti-Jim fans are not 'true fans'. I will say they are deluded, in my opinion, if they think chopping & changing managers is the answer, but that is different.

Finally, yes, that thread on Tuesday night was unacceptable on occasions. It was reported and moderated. Unfortunately, as fast as I was cleaning up, people had quoted & re-quoted the original offensive post and also posts containing foul & abusive language were appearing. Public warnings were given and apologies received. I think I moderated fairly & even handedly, not taking sides.

This was a positive thread. I hope it can now continue as such.

[Keith]

Thanks Phil & Seasider!

[Seasider9601]

Thanks Phil & Seasider!

No need to thank us Keith.

We could see exactly what you were alluding to in your post.

[Phil Anderer]

Thanks Phil & Seasider!

No thanks neede Keith, although I think I need to thank you for correcting my post.

[Doonhamer]

Keith thank you for your reply. To answer and for proving my point.
Firstly Your post can be interpreted in more than one way
Secondly calling a wide section of the fan base deluded does not bring anything constructive to the conversation is antagonistic. Interestingly a delusion is a false fixed belief that is held despite being contradicted by reality.
Now let’s look at reality.
2018/19 p18 w6 d2 l10 gd-11 out fa cup by non league a striker who cannot hit a barn door with a stick and a manager who thinks that repeating failed tactics will result in a different outcome.
2017/18. Lets abridge stayed up by a gd of 4
2016/17 p46 w14 d10 l22 gd -20
2015/16 p46 w12 d10 l24 gd- 22
All this with a background of falling attendances seems to me the reality contradicts something and it’s not that a change of manager and or a change in the management structure of the club is needed.
Thirdly whoever pays the piper calls the tune and as it seems the co chairmen are the pipers but we will see how that one works out.
Like a few others your attitude and that of your fellow contributors who feel that they have a say in how a business is run are quite frankly need your head looked at and it is turning people away. We will never agree who should be manager and quite frankly it is none of our business as we don’t have a choice but we have a choice in what entertainment we spend our money on and I can assure you that when the business is failing change will be made And yes I am still a true fan.
Your tag line “ we have more in common that devides us” what a hypocrite.

[mrpotatohead]

I personally have good friends on the opposite side of the Jim out debate..
and we are not abusive to each other ...same as the PMG situation ..one of closest friends was also a close colleague and admirer of the former chairman and I treat his delusion with defference and good humour ...if you feel you have valid points its easy to stay calm and polite ...after all its only a game!!!