Players not paid

[Freez]

That new lad bragging was on LinkedIn TBF, but he's now an old lad not around anymore!!!

[Gone_Shrimping]

Fans' Forum coming up on 13th December 7-30pm straight after the AGM so the questions can be asked then.

[al1]

Can not see many questions being answered at the AGM,co chairmen are just 'puppets' of the owners really! Anyone seen the owners recently either home or away?

[BerlinWaller]

That new lad bragging was on LinkedIn TBF, but he's now an old lad not around anymore!!!

It still got out in to the public domain and reflected badly on the club. Gone already eh? Was he a PMG signing?

[Freez]

No, new addition from Del Boy and Rodney, didn't last long did he?

[Gone_Shrimping]

No, new addition from Del Boy and Rodney, didn't last long did he?

He is still on our Who's Who on the OWS but that is often behind events !

[Andy D]

Can not see many questions being answered at the AGM,co chairmen are just 'puppets' of the owners really! Anyone seen the owners recently either home or away?

Know what you mean Nigel.

It's the Owners who need challanging with questions.

Although there still might get some news regarding the under cover area behind the goal, i know the trust were pushing this.

[black morse]

I may get jumped on here but if the players have now been paid that is the most important thing. Do we fans really have to be told why? Surely a small glitch is an internal matter.

Another point of note is, how did the media get to find out about the “late payment” issue??
Sometimes ignorance is bliss, especially for those who can not actually do anything about a situation, and ultimately, when nothing positive can come from it. This has understandably created unease among fans, but might just turnout to be a “storm in a teacup? “ A “storm” of no real significance, that none of us really needed to know about??

A journalist doing their job properly (see also Bolton Wanderers et al) and presumably a member of staff disgruntled about being paid late again or someone internally with an axe to grind or maybe one of the players when interviewed, just mentioned it.

Over the past few years I'd be happy to be kept in the dark given the boardroom circus we've had. Sadly, it wasn't disgruntled staff, fans or anyone else talking about Joseph Cala, Diego Lemos, Chinese investment, PFA bailouts etc. etc. it was the owners or authorities themselves. If the poo ever did hit the fan I hope we do get some advance notice, or, like Scarborough and Ru$hd£n & Diamonds, it could be too late for us or anyone else to do anything about it.

Sadly I don't think we could do anything if we did get enough warning.

[BerlinWaller]

No, new addition from Del Boy and Rodney, didn't last long did he?

He only looked about 12 and was from out of town so was a surprising addition if I am honest. We need a local person who can rebuild the bridges destroyed by ego-maniacs.

[Slanester]

Another point of note is, how did the media get to find out about the “late payment” issue??
Sometimes ignorance is bliss, especially for those who can not actually do anything about a situation, and ultimately, when nothing positive can come from it. This has understandably created unease among fans, but might just turnout to be a “storm in a teacup? “ A “storm” of no real significance, that none of us really needed to know about??[/quote]

A journalist doing their job properly (see also Bolton Wanderers et al) and presumably a member of staff disgruntled about being paid late again or someone internally with an axe to grind or maybe one of the players when interviewed, just mentioned it.

Over the past few years I'd be happy to be kept in the dark given the boardroom circus we've had. Sadly, it wasn't disgruntled staff, fans or anyone else talking about Joseph Cala, Diego Lemos, Chinese investment, PFA bailouts etc. etc. it was the owners or authorities themselves. If the poo ever did hit the fan I hope we do get some advance notice, or, like Scarborough and Ru$hd£n & Diamonds, it could be too late for us or anyone else to do anything about it.[/quote]

Sadly I don't think we could do anything if we did get enough warning.[/quote]

And even more sad, is you are absolutely correct bm. As supporters, we can moan and groan, criticise all and sundry, ask or shout as many questions as we want, to whoever we want.........but at the end of the day, the powers that be,make the decisions, end of. That is a fact of life in all business. Some will accept that situation, others won’t, and we will all individually decide on our future relationship with MFC.

[Joel Ninety]

No, new addition from Del Boy and Rodney, didn't last long did he?

He only looked about 12 and was from out of town so was a surprising addition if I am honest. We need a local person who can rebuild the bridges destroyed by ego-maniacs.

Seemed to spend a lot of his time posting Tommy Robinson-related links on Facebook instead of catching the big money fish.

[Shrimp Girl]

[..] Even Rod's last post on here was damage limitation after the farce of the Halifax cup tie.

That seems a bit harsh to me; I doubt there are many club chairmen that would make the effort to talk to fans after that kind of disappointment. You could call any statement that came out after any event 'damage limitation' - or you could call it 'communication.' Glass half-full and all that. Rod is one of the good guys. I like it when he posts on here and on Facebook, and it would be sad if he thought we were throwing his comments back at him.

[BerlinWaller]

[..] Even Rod's last post on here was damage limitation after the farce of the Halifax cup tie.

That seems a bit harsh to me; I doubt there are many club chairmen that would make the effort to talk to fans after that kind of disappointment. You could call any statement that came out after any event 'damage limitation' - or you could call it 'communication.' Glass half-full and all that. Rod is one of the good guys. I like it when he posts on here and on Facebook, and it would be sad if he thought we were throwing his comments back at him.

I am not knocking Rod, if anything it was good management. He came on the day after and tried to steady the ship. With the regard he is held in by the fans(and rightly so), he could have just copied and pasted the shipping forecast and we would have been happy.

[redrobo]

That new lad bragging was on LinkedIn TBF, but he's now an old lad not around anymore!!!

Who are you talking about.....

[Westgate Wanderer]

[..] Even Rod's last post on here was damage limitation after the farce of the Halifax cup tie.

That seems a bit harsh to me; I doubt there are many club chairmen that would make the effort to talk to fans after that kind of disappointment. You could call any statement that came out after any event 'damage limitation' - or you could call it 'communication.' Glass half-full and all that. Rod is one of the good guys. I like it when he posts on here and on Facebook, and it would be sad if he thought we were throwing his comments back at him.

I am not knocking Rod, if anything it was good management. He came on the day after and tried to steady the ship. With the regard he is held in by the fans(and rightly so), he could have just copied and pasted the shipping forecast and we would have been happy.

Always amuses me when listening to the cricket on the radio that at 17:55 they announce radio 4 listeners are leaving us for the shipping forecast! Usually miss a wicket when it's on too

[Shrimp Girl]

Shipping forecast is cult radio listening, as is cricket commentary (so I understand, they always seem to be talking about their lunch whenever I hear it).

But we have Rod, and occasional gems from Radio Kenyon. If Rod were to read the shipping forecast, we could probably make some money out of it

[Seasider9601]

Fisher.

German Bight.

Cromatry.

#Kes

[shrimp&seek]

No excuse for late payment of wages. Employers have many important requests for the staff to comply with and the ONE most important request from a employee is to be paid on time. Shocking.

[Slanester]

No excuse for late payment of wages. Employers have many important requests for the staff to comply with and the ONE most important request from a employee is to be paid on time. Shocking.

You are absolutely right ss, but it happens. I used to work for a company, who’s name I won’t mention, that would have MFC as loose change in it’s back pocket, and even they managed to fail in their duty, on at least 2 occasions.
Hopefully it doesn’t happen again at MFC.

[Rod Taylor]

Can not see many questions being answered at the AGM,co chairmen are just 'puppets' of the owners really! Anyone seen the owners recently either home or away?

Firstly, the Annual General Meeting is the opportunity for the shareholders of the company to come along, ask their questions and get those questions answered by the directors. Surely, that is part and parcel of an AGM. Secondly, Graham Howse and I are not and will not act as "puppets". We have been asked by the owners to take on these positions and I can assure you that we do this in full knowledge of our rolls & responsibilities. Make no mistake, this is a JOB (apart from not receiving any remuneration!) We each have very different, but complimentary, skill sets and our own defined areas of responsibility, some of which do dovetail across.
Some of you will have to exercise a little patience with us, we have identified some of the the areas that need addressing and already prioritised the issues we feel should be higher on our agenda. We will lay ourselves open to criticism at times, that goes with the territory, but this is not a popularity contest. Communication is essential, we have established those lines with the Shrimps Trust and I would hold that offer out to any Morecambe supporter who has an idea for improving the match-day experience or our involvement in the local community to contact me via the club. I have already stated that,"my office door is always open" (though I do not have an office at the club!), and I will endeavour to respond in a timely manner, although I will not always have the answer you may be looking for.
We have a good platform to make further progress and improve our club on many levels, lets work on things together, with one aim, a bright future for Morecambe Football Club. RT

[Knightrider]

With respect Rod why were your employees paid late and what has been done to prevent this reoccurring?

Thank you.

[Slanester]

Firstly, the Annual General Meeting is the opportunity for the shareholders of the company to come along, ask their questions and get those questions answered by the directors. Surely, that is part and parcel of an AGM. Secondly, Graham Howse and I are not and will not act as "puppets". We have been asked by the owners to take on these positions and I can assure you that we do this in full knowledge of our rolls & responsibilities. Make no mistake, this is a JOB (apart from not receiving any remuneration!) We each have very different, but complimentary, skill sets and our own defined areas of responsibility, some of which do dovetail across.
Some of you will have to exercise a little patience with us, we have identified some of the the areas that need addressing and already prioritised the issues we feel should be higher on our agenda. We will lay ourselves open to criticism at times, that goes with the territory, but this is not a popularity contest. Communication is essential, we have established those lines with the Shrimps Trust and I would hold that offer out to any Morecambe supporter who has an idea for improving the match-day experience or our involvement in the local community to contact me via the club. I have already stated that,"my office door is always open" (though I do not have an office at the club!), and I will endeavour to respond in a timely manner, although I will not always have the answer you may be looking for.
We have a good platform to make further progress and improve our club on many levels, lets work on things together, with one aim, a bright future for Morecambe Football Club. RT[/quote]

On behalf of many Shrimps supporters, I would like to thankyou for your post. Not a “shipping forecast,” but a very honest, well worded, intelligent response. All communication is always welcome.
On a personal note though. As we all agree, everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I would say that some comments made on here should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Working together, in the “present,” and leaving the past behind, however negatively it impacted at the time, is the only way to try and secure a brighter future for MFC.

[Knightrider]

Some of you will have to exercise a little patience with us, we have identified some of the the areas that need addressing and already prioritised the issues we feel should be higher on our agenda. We will lay ourselves open to criticism at times, that goes with the territory, but this is not a popularity contest. Communication is essential, we have established those lines with the Shrimps Trust and I would hold that offer out to any Morecambe supporter who has an idea for improving the match-day experience or our involvement in the local community to contact me via the club. I have already stated that,"my office door is always open" (though I do not have an office at the club!), and I will endeavour to respond in a timely manner, although I will not always have the answer you may be looking for.
We have a good platform to make further progress and improve our club on many levels, lets work on things together, with one aim, a bright future for Morecambe Football Club. RT

On behalf of many Shrimps supporters, I would like to thankyou for your post. Not a “shipping forecast,” but a very honest, well worded, intelligent response. All communication is always welcome.
On a personal note though. As we all agree, everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I would say that some comments made on here should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Working together, in the “present,” and leaving the past behind, however negatively it impacted at the time, is the only way to try and secure a brighter future for MFC.[/quote]

So reading between the lines what you are actually saying is that communication is essential but has to be on our terms and that any tough key questions will be treated with contempt - sadly nothing has changed at MFC Ltd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDfRuY7pp-g

[Slanester]

Some of you will have to exercise a little patience with us, we have identified some of the the areas that need addressing and already prioritised the issues we feel should be higher on our agenda. We will lay ourselves open to criticism at times, that goes with the territory, but this is not a popularity contest. Communication is essential, we have established those lines with the Shrimps Trust and I would hold that offer out to any Morecambe supporter who has an idea for improving the match-day experience or our involvement in the local community to contact me via the club. I have already stated that,"my office door is always open" (though I do not have an office at the club!), and I will endeavour to respond in a timely manner, although I will not always have the answer you may be looking for.
We have a good platform to make further progress and improve our club on many levels, lets work on things together, with one aim, a bright future for Morecambe Football Club. RT

On behalf of many Shrimps supporters, I would like to thankyou for your post. Not a “shipping forecast,” but a very honest, well worded, intelligent response. All communication is always welcome.
On a personal note though. As we all agree, everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I would say that some comments made on here should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Working together, in the “present,” and leaving the past behind, however negatively it impacted at the time, is the only way to try and secure a brighter future for MFC.

So reading between the lines what you are actually saying is that communication is essential but has to be on our terms and that any tough key questions will be treated with contempt - sadly nothing has changed at MFC Ltd.

K, 100 people could read my comment, “read between the lines,” and come to a totally different conclusion to yours.
Something we both agree on, is that communication is important, and tough question should be asked when necessary. Where we differ on this ,is that for me, the importance of it should be in relation to the “here and now.” Things can only move forward, if the past isn’t allowed, to taint and cloud the present. Easier said than done maybe, but how I see it.
With regard to me saying,”some of the comments should be treated with contempt,” That is because we both know, that they are just put on to get a reaction, rather than input to a sensible, adult discussion.
As I have said on a number of occasions, everybody has an opinion. If I disagree and post my own, it’s not because I feel that mine is more important or correct than any other, simply MY OPINION.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDfRuY7pp-g[/quote]

[Knightrider]

K, 100 people could read my comment, “read between the lines,” and come to a totally different conclusion to yours.
Something we both agree on, is that communication is important, and tough question should be asked when necessary. Where we differ on this ,is that for me, the importance of it should be in relation to the “here and now.” Things can only move forward, if the past isn’t allowed, to taint and cloud the present. Easier said than done maybe, but how I see it.
With regard to me saying,”some of the comments should be treated with contempt,” That is because we both know, that they are just put on to get a reaction, rather than input to a sensible, adult discussion.
As I have said on a number of occasions, everybody has an opinion. If I disagree and post my own, it’s not because I feel that mine is more important or correct than any other, simply MY OPINION.

How many other monickers do you have on this forum S?

Ok then if thats your opinion and going with the flow perhaps you could communicate your take on this thread and inform us of the five year business plan -

http://www.giraffe.arvixe.com/~iomkeith/shrimpsvoices/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23905