No Oswell in the team, off to Wrexham?

[marky No.1]

An interesting interview with Oswell on the Wrexham page.

Where?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... gXifCzt4Zw

Got subbed without scoring, 2.0 down

[Seasider9601]

What “ the Charlie Long “
Never heard of him he must be our signing lol

Off to the seaside probably. Blackpool.

Yep. Signed for them.

[KenH]

I can only think Jim's think when he took on Oswell was headers for goals, with Thommo providing the accurate crosses he needs. With Thommo being let go, there's no one to give Oswell the crosses. So if that's the thinking, then it makes sense to let Oswell go too. Mandy and Oates aren't really wingers who provide good crosses to the goal area. And our corners and free kicks are notoriously awful in terms of accuracy, so again, don't feed into a header like Oswell.

[Seasider9601]

Got subbed without scoring, 2.0 down

Whole team had NO shots on target in 90 minutes.

Wrexham fans fuming.

Oswell played up front with another ex Shrimp, Chris Holroyd.

http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/wrex ... omley.html

[marky No.1]

Got subbed without scoring, 2.0 down

Whole team had NO shots on target in 90 minutes.

Wrexham fans fuming.

Oswell played up front with another ex Shrimp, Chris Holroyd.

http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/wrex ... omley.html

"strikers like Stockton and Oswell will NOT create any chances without any service."

Sounds familiar

[Slanester]

I can only think Jim's think when he took on Oswell was headers for goals, with Thommo providing the accurate crosses he needs. With Thommo being let go, there's no one to give Oswell the crosses. So if that's the thinking, then it makes sense to let Oswell go too. Mandy and Oates aren't really wingers who provide good crosses to the goal area. And our corners and free kicks are notoriously awful in terms of accuracy, so again, don't feed into a header like Oswell.

Makes sense Keith.
On the other hand, and after watching the interview, was there more going on behind the scenes
We will never know.

[Seasider9601]

was there more going on behind the scenes
We will never know.

I've not been able to watch the interview yet, what was said with regard that aspect?

[Slanester]

was there more going on behind the scenes
We will never know.

I've not been able to watch the interview yet, what was said with regard that aspect?

Nothing really Seasider. Maybe I have read something in to it, that isn’t fair, just a couple of his comments that struck me.

[Seasider9601]

Ok, cheers.

I'll have a listen later on today.

Thanks again.

[marky No.1]

I can only think Jim's think when he took on Oswell was headers for goals, with Thommo providing the accurate crosses he needs. With Thommo being let go, there's no one to give Oswell the crosses. So if that's the thinking, then it makes sense to let Oswell go too. Mandy and Oates aren't really wingers who provide good crosses to the goal area. And our corners and free kicks are notoriously awful in terms of accuracy, so again, don't feed into a header like Oswell.

Makes sense Keith.
On the other hand, and after watching the interview, was there more going on behind the scenes
We will never know.

Keith has another alias

[Keith]

was there more going on behind the scenes
We will never know.

I've not been able to watch the interview yet, what was said with regard that aspect?

The key point for me was basically saying Stockport & Wrexham are bigger clubs than Morecambe. Which in many ways is true.

[Seasider9601]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

[Gone_Shrimping]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

Our gates are looking much better this season.

I make the average league gate over 1,900 this season which is up about 400 on last season.

We have Bury and Lincoln coming soon which will put our average up.

There have been quite a few increases in like for like games , Carlisle last year was 3,200 and was 3,750 this year and Crewe last season which admittedly was on a Tuesday was just over 900 and this season it was over 1,660.

The football has been better even though results haven't and maybe the Commercial dept. deserve a pat on the back.

[Slanester]

I can only think Jim's think when he took on Oswell was headers for goals, with Thommo providing the accurate crosses he needs. With Thommo being let go, there's no one to give Oswell the crosses. So if that's the thinking, then it makes sense to let Oswell go too. Mandy and Oates aren't really wingers who provide good crosses to the goal area. And our corners and free kicks are notoriously awful in terms of accuracy, so again, don't feed into a header like Oswell.

Makes sense Keith.
On the other hand, and after watching the interview, was there more going on behind the scenes
We will never know.

Keith has another alias

Sorry Ken H.

[black morse]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

Our gates are looking much better this season.

I make the average league gate over 1,900 this season which is up about 400 on last season.

We have Bury and Lincoln coming soon which will put our average up.

There have been quite a few increases in like for like games , Carlisle last year was 3,200 and was 3,750 this year and Crewe last season which admittedly was on a Tuesday was just over 900 and this season it was over 1,660.

The football has been better even though results haven't and maybe the Commercial dept. deserve a pat on the back.

Got to be good news and should be encouraging for owners and fans alike.

[Keith]

Makes sense Keith.

Sorry Ken H.

Not often someone says something nice about me, so I was taking it anyway!

[KenH]

maybe the Commercial dept. deserve a pat on the back.

Certainly looks as if they deserve it. The Local Suite suite had tumble weed a few times last season - completely empty. Still a way to go before it's full every game as it needs to be, but it's certainly had more "diners" this season. The commercial team must be doing something right.

[Keith]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

I was being subtle! Obviously too subtle!
Those 'Jim out, we should be in the Championship by now, club treading water, no ambition' brigade who don't accept that players think non-league teams are bigger than us... Part-time, Conference North teams are bigger than us!

[broadwayshrimp]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

I was being subtle! Obviously too subtle!
Those 'Jim out, we should be in the Championship by now, club treading water, no ambition' brigade who don't accept that players think non-league teams are bigger than us... Part-time, Conference North teams are bigger than us!

Which begs the question. How the hell does Jim manage to sell the club to new players because at the moment we haven't got a lot going for us. I think he's done well to get the players we've got.

[Bare bum]

Part-time, Conference North teams are bigger than us!

Yep, from a cursory glance I would say Stockport, Telford, Chester, Kidderminster, Alty, Southport, Darlington, Boston, York, Hereford, FC United are all bigger and would get bigger crowds, some much bigger, than us if they were in our position in league 2.

Personally, being pitched in the same league against the likes of Oldham, Bury, Coventry, Portsmouth, MK Dons, Port Vale, Crewe, Swindon, Grimsby, Carlisle, Blackpool, Donny, Bristol Rovers, Scunny, Bournemouth, Tranmere, Brentford and all still gobsmacks me - if I stand back and think about it.

Ok I've stood back, thought about it and remember when growing up, us playing league matches against Nelson, Barrow and Southport reserves, Leyland Motors, Rossendale United, Netherfield, Great Harwood, Burscough, Marine, Bacup Borough, Wigan Borough and who could forget Guinness Exports at Gigfy Park.

Good days though

[Keith]

Ok I've stood back, thought about it and remember when growing up, us playing league matches against Nelson, Barrow and Southport reserves, Leyland Motors, Rossendale United, Netherfield, Great Harwood, Burscough, Marine, Bacup Borough, Wigan Borough and who could forget Guinness Exports at Gigfy Park.

Good days though

And for me, that would be a more potent argument if the 'Jim out' brigade made it! If the goal each season is to some how scrape another season in the Football League, as equals with clubs that were previously Premiership sides, then Jim is performing miracles. If they were to argue that dropping in to non-league and finding our true level (lower National League, top(ish) National League North) because it would be more enjoyable, then I'd find it difficult to argue against that. Get relegated, go part-time and enjoy the football. If that is what people genuinely want, I'll accept that as a fair point of view. But expecting play-offs on a National League North budget is crazy, in my opinion.

Remember when Stockport beat Man City 2-1 and John Hardiker scored two? I was in a pub with a Man City fan to watch it on Sky, having told him about Stockport signing an ex-Morecambe player... What a fun night that was... We were non-league then and Stockport were huge. Not sure what happened to Hardiker or Man City...

[Posh]

An interesting interview with Oswell on the Wrexham page.

Where?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... gXifCzt4Zw

Got subbed without scoring, 2.0 down

Ouch!

"Stockport more of a fans club [than Morecambe]"
"Good to see how big the club is [Wrexham]. I thrive on playing in front of big crowds like when I was at Stockport".

[Posh]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

Our gates are looking much better this season.

I make the average league gate over 1,900 this season which is up about 400 on last season.

We have Bury and Lincoln coming soon which will put our average up.

There have been quite a few increases in like for like games , Carlisle last year was 3,200 and was 3,750 this year and Crewe last season which admittedly was on a Tuesday was just over 900 and this season it was over 1,660.

The football has been better even though results haven't and maybe the Commercial dept. deserve a pat on the back.

What for Carlisle playing decent football? Northern teams like Bury, Oldham and Macclesfield getting relegated and promoted? For us not playing as awfully as last season? For us not getting a Tuesday night fixture?

Hmmm...

[Gone_Shrimping]

Definitely bigger clubs Keith, yes.

Stockport who ply their trade in Conference North average 2,500 home fans. Even at that level....

Our gates are looking much better this season.

I make the average league gate over 1,900 this season which is up about 400 on last season.

We have Bury and Lincoln coming soon which will put our average up.

There have been quite a few increases in like for like games , Carlisle last year was 3,200 and was 3,750 this year and Crewe last season which admittedly was on a Tuesday was just over 900 and this season it was over 1,660.

The football has been better even though results haven't and maybe the Commercial dept. deserve a pat on the back.

What for Carlisle playing decent football? Northern teams like Bury, Oldham and Macclesfield getting relegated and promoted? For us not playing as awfully as last season? For us not getting a Tuesday night fixture?

Hmmm...

We have had Tuesday night home games this season. So far we have had none of the ridiculous 3 figure gates or anything like them. Where we can compare like with like the gates are up. We could end the season with an average of 1,900 to 2,000 which is a huge increase which ever way you look at it compared with last season.

[Slanester]

Where we can compare like with like the gates are up. We could end the season with an average of 1,900 to 2,000 which is a huge increase which ever way you look at it compared with last season.

Thanks for making the effort, and for posting GS. Some real positivity in my opinion, hoping it continues, onward and upward.