Your opinions on Mandeville

[Andy D]

I sit in C-Prem now, Jim is no different compared to other Managers in the Away Dugout with giving out Instructions to be fair.

Its what we do or dont do in training what makes me wonder at times, like shape & movement off the ball, other teams always seem better organised.

[alick is my hero]

Thanks for all the replies.

I hope to make the Northampton game so I can see for my self how Mandy is doing. It seems that he is going through a bad patch at the moment. I am guessing but the manager seems to be setting the team up not to lose at the expense of using Mandy's creativity up front!

Another ex player of Donny's is Andy Williams, now at Northampton, one to watch out for I would suggest

[marky No.1]

With or without injuries, our team seems to be juggled every week, our players must be confused (as I am at times) with what their jobs and positions are.
Sadly, stability isn't something we do at MFC.
We await for our next instalment on Saturday, cya there.

[alick is my hero]

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[alick is my hero]

Due to family commitments I was unable to make the Northampton game today. It looks like Mandy is clearly out of favour now, does he deserve it? is he still being played out of position? I am still interested in your views good or bad.

[mrpotatohead]

In a dogfight stability is a key requirement, he is very talented but isn't one you'd want in the trenches with you, then again, quite a few aren't, I believe that our dire training arrangements are contributing to our injury problems, and morale.

[redrobo]

In a dogfight stability is a key requirement, he is very talented but isn't one you'd want in the trenches with you, then again, quite a few aren't, I believe that our dire training arrangements are contributing to our injury problems, and morale.

Certainly a major contributing factor in our performances season after season for me.

If you recall I asked at the Fans Forum what are the club doing to improve what is a sorry apology for training facilities remembering that over 12 months ago that i said that come the bad weather we'd be in trouble which at the time i got shot down in flames by a club official. The answer we got at the Forum was that the club were looking at a new facility or arrangements as a priority which lead me to suggest that we looked outside of the area for a suitable alternative even going to the extent of approaching PNE to seek a deal where we could make use of their Springfield''s site in Preston with a view to taking it over as and when PNE move to a new training facility that has already got planning permission for I understand.

If no suitable area can be found in the Morecambe / Lancaster areas then we have to look outside which brings into the catchment areas Garstang, Fulwood and Broughton but as suitable land may not be available without a premium price being attached, it makes the recent announcement by our owners of looking for some kind of arrangement with a Rugby Club of interest.

Unfortunately as like so many other issues where some communication form the owners would be welcome this particular suggestion appears to have not at the moment come to any conclusion but we live in hope ....as we continue to do so particularly the on going saga of the improvements to the former Omega stand.

[Shrimp Girl]

Every day I walk past the old Skerton High school and think what a shame nobody is using it. The club are currently training on Morecambe High pitches, well there is a playing field here in Skerton that's not being shared with anybody. And there was a decent sports hall inside the school as well. No doubt it would need some TLC as the school has been shut a couple of years, but the County Council might be open to offers, even if only for temporary use.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

Not sure how a thread on Mandeville has been hijacked to training facilities but for what it's worth here's my six pennies worth.I don't like to keep using Accrington Stanley as a comparison, but as a club which has been similar in size to us for long enough it's the best I can come up with. They still don't have their own training base and in recent seasons have used Rolls Royce Sports Ground in Barnoldswick, Queen Elizabeth Grammar School playing fields in Blackburn and Wilsons playing fields in Clayton le Moors. Remarkably similar to us with Turners playing fields, Morecambe High School playing fields and the College. In fact I would say we have slightly better facilities. I don't see them bleating about it, they just get on with it and keep on winning! I feel you could put our current set up in a state of the art training facility and we wouldn't improve much, if at all. In my opinion the problems lie elsewhere as I've mentioned in other threads.However I don't see much changing for the foreseeable future so we may as well just try supporting them as best as we can and once again hope there are two teams worse than us.

UTS.

[alick is my hero]

Hi Guys,

I would appreciate getting back on topic...........Your Opinions on Mandy.

Not much news at the moment owing to Mandy being on the bench, subbed and a cancelled game, back to normal soon.

[alick is my hero]

Great result tonight! any comments on Mandy?

[Gone_Shrimping]

Great result tonight! any comments on Mandy?

I didn't get there tonight but reports are that he was excellent and assisted with the last minute winner.

The Oldham fans are praising him on their forum.

I hope we can sign him permanently.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

Mandy only got on for a cameo. Initially when he came on the game was at a crucial point and was a bit all hands to the pumps. We had them pressed back in their half and he let one of their defenders escape rather too easily with not so much as a challenge, when he could have put a foot in. At that point I was of the attitude that he wasn't getting into the battle like the rest. However he quickly warmed to the task and his coup de grace at the end to skin two Oldham defenders and put it on a plate for Collins to bag the winner was pure class. I haven't seen enough of him to form a definitive opinion but what he did at the end was a game changer and he obviously has massive ability when he applies it to best effect.

[marky No.1]

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[Slanester]

A little bit of the “Mande magic,” at the end of an excellent, battling, determined team performance, made sure we took the 3 pts we deserved.
Hopefully it will re-energise his confidence, and he gets back to showing more of the quality that he most definitely has.
COYS.

[Screenster]

Crap today

[Westgate Wanderer]

Crap today

as was the rest of the team! Worst home game this season

[alick is my hero]

Now come on guys don't forget you were playing a very good side, Lincoln, who make most teams look rubbish. I think Bentley had to set the team up with a strong defence mentality, which is not playing to Mandy's strengths.

[Screenster]

I think Bentley had to set the team up with a strong defence mentality

What, like he does almost every game?

We came in to this game off the back of 2 wins, there would've been absolutely no harm in going for it. I'd rather lose having a go than lose while creating hardly any good chances all game.

[Gone_Shrimping]

We looked better offensively when Mandy came on , unfortunately Bentley made the change just after the 2nd goal went in. Lincoln knew he was dangerous and they had 2 men on him and were over-physical which the ref seemed to ignore.

He really needs to start games. Earlier in the season there was a good little system developing with Mandy , Leitch-Smith and Oates. Leitch-Smith is out for the season , Oates has been injured as has Mandy.

[KenH]

I think Bentley had to set the team up with a strong defence mentality

Which is Jim's usual mentality. Kenyon was our third centre back yesterday - it was clear that we had a back line of 5 throughout the game. What was worse was the way they were so far back towards our own goal - they were deliberately staying back instead of pushing forward, just inviting pressure. When will Jim learn that the best form of defence is attack!

[redrobo]

We looked better offensively when Mandy came on , unfortunately Bentley made the change just after the 2nd goal went in. Lincoln knew he was dangerous and they had 2 men on him and were over-physical which the ref seemed to ignore.

He really needs to start games. Earlier in the season there was a good little system developing with Mandy , Leitch-Smith and Oates. Leitch-Smith is out for the season , Oates has been injured as has Mandy.

As soon as the board showing that Mandy was coming on, their management team immediately instructed at least one of their players to pay special attention to Mandy and so it proved but to his credit his class did show through on a number of occasions despite some shirt pulling and bending of the rules that the blatant incompetence of the referee constantly ignored.

[marky No.1]

unfortunately Bentley made the change just after the 2nd goal went in. .

He decided on the change 5 minutes before the goal, as is usual our substitutions seem to take an age as they check their vests and monitoring equipment before being given instructions and waiting for the officials. I suspect the instructions to Mandy and Collins were wasted after the 2nd went in.

I would have rather gone for it at home and lost 4.3, after the celebrations and confidence boost at Oldham, we once again went back in our shell, the space and respect was far too great.

[Freez]

Did we show them too much respect, or were they actually quite good, you know, as they are clear top of the league?
We were certainly not at the races for the first half hour. Their high pressing is hard to sustain for a full 45 minutes so we did come into it for a bit.
I thought we looked leg weary, JB gets slated for changing a winning side, or slated for keeping a winning side if it doesn’t work!! Maybe with hindsight he would have changed it, but Mandy did better than he has been doing, Oldham apart.
There are plenty more winnable games which will affect those around us more, onwards and hopefully upwards.

[Gone_Shrimping]

Did we show them too much respect, or were they actually quite good, you know, as they are clear top of the league?
We were certainly not at the races for the first half hour. Their high pressing is hard to sustain for a full 45 minutes so we did come into it for a bit.
I thought we looked leg weary, JB gets slated for changing a winning side, or slated for keeping a winning side if it doesn’t work!! Maybe with hindsight he would have changed it, but Mandy did better than he has been doing, Oldham apart.
[u][color=#0000BF]There are plenty more winnable games which will affect those around us more,[/color][/u] onwards and hopefully upwards.

Yes , out of the 12 fixtures remaining maybe all could be called "winnable" although maybe MK Dons and FGR are the toughest. Jim has to let the flair players loose and go for victories. Collins and Piero both starting and tearing teams like Yeovil to bits. Start Mandy and play him as a number 10 where he can link play up.