Your opinions on Mandeville

Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:10 pm

Its easy for me to say but I go along with the comments supporting Mandy being just behind two strikers. The kids got talent, use it.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:00 pm

Whats happened to Mandy he seems well out of favour!

Is he off form?
Is he injured?
doesn't fit in with the managers style of play?
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby black morse » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:14 pm

alick is my hero wrote:Whats happened to Mandy he seems well out of favour!

Is he off form?
Is he injured?
doesn't fit in with the managers style of play?


I saw him for the first time on Saturday and OK he was only on for the last 20 mins but I saw nothing which impressed me.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:59 pm

How did Mandy do today..........scored a winner........but can't get a starting position!

Do you think he should move on?
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Keith » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:12 pm

alick is my hero wrote:How did Mandy do today..........scored a winner........but can't get a starting position!

Do you think he should move on?


Back to playing how he was at the start of his stay with us, lots of nice passes, really involved and scored with a nice header from a superb cross. He had gone off the boil and had a few anonymous matches, so I think it is fair to expect him to fight for a place back in the starting eleven. Perhaps it is consistency? Perhaps it is the mental side to his game? Perhaps his confidence is fragile, so a couple of poor games affected him too much? Today, him & Fleming made a big difference when they came on, so hopefully, that will give him a lift. If Kev had spotted his run and played a simple pass, he'd have been one on one with the keeper at the end of the match, so great position.

I would expect him to start on the bench again next week and perhaps he'll be an impact sub for a few more games. But I'd like to see him stay with us for next season and hopefully Jim will develop him, working out what it is that is missing, or more to the point, why he went missing for a while? Good player, just need him at his best every week!
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:23 am

Nice cameo appearance from Mande yesterday, one of his first acts was to run through 3 players and put a cross in! Not seen that from our side in the whole match. Nice header to win a game we were fortunate to still be in. Hope he stays here as he is an exciting forward thinking player.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby redrobo » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:04 am

Delighted for Mandy and he certainly along with Fleming changed what had been a sterile performance.

He looked really pleased with himself as he came off the pitch which should have done his confidence a power of good.

Hopefully there is a place for both him and Fleming in future team selections.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Ispyshrimp » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:36 am

redrobo wrote:Delighted for Mandy and he certainly along with Fleming changed what had been a sterile performance.

He looked really pleased with himself as he came off the pitch which should have done his confidence a power of good.

Hopefully there is a place for both him and Fleming in future team selections.



both were excellent I thought when they came on
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby sandgrown » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:43 am

Westgate Wanderer wrote:Nice cameo appearance from Mande yesterday, one of his first acts was to run through 3 players and put a cross in! Not seen that from our side in the whole match. Nice header to win a game we were fortunate to still be in. Hope he stays here as he is an exciting forward thinking player.


totally agree, i was shouting for him to come on as we had no creativity at all, his touches and passing are second to none, a real class act.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Slanester » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:47 am

A bit of the old “Mande magic,” which he is very capable of. Would be great if yesterday provided the catalyst for a return to form, and favour for him. It is definitely in there.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Keith » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:51 am

Ispyshrimp wrote:
redrobo wrote:Delighted for Mandy and he certainly along with Fleming changed what had been a sterile performance.

Hopefully there is a place for both him and Fleming in future team selections.


both were excellent I thought when they came on


Perhaps one of the statos can let me know, did Mandy's loss of form coincide with Flemo's injury? Perhaps Flemo brings out the best in Mandy?
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby marky No.1 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:07 pm

Could have a point there, Keith. when Flemmo was replaced by Cranston early October it was only 3 of 4 games later Mandy hit the bench.
Flemmo has a much better eye for a pass rather than a long range punt. Noticeable for me yesterday that he was sliding through forward passes rather than the sideways movements he has been famous for, this is obviously easier done now we have forwards eager on getting the ball.

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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Little Shrimp » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:13 pm

marky No.1 wrote:Could have a point there, Keith. when Flemmo was replaced by Cranston early October it was only 3 of 4 games later Mandy hit the bench.
Flemmo has a much better eye for a pass rather than a long range punt. Noticeable for me yesterday that he was sliding through forward passes rather than the sideways movements he has been famous for, this is obviously easier done now we have forwards eager on getting the ball.

Oates could have been subbed earlier for me


Always thought Fleming linked really nicely with Devitt when he was here as well. Think somebody with similarly good technical ability gives Fleming something to assist/play off.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby tim-sanchez » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:41 pm

Keith wrote:
Ispyshrimp wrote:
redrobo wrote:Delighted for Mandy and he certainly along with Fleming changed what had been a sterile performance.

Hopefully there is a place for both him and Fleming in future team selections.


both were excellent I thought when they came on


Perhaps one of the statos can let me know, did Mandy's loss of form coincide with Flemo's injury? Perhaps Flemo brings out the best in Mandy?


It doesn't quite match up.

Flemo got injured before the Grimsby game (29th September), Mandy scored in that one and got 3 assists in the 3 matches following. He then went a bit off the boil, and stopped getting full matches in late November.

I think there's more to it, he's a young player who's inconsistent, but definitely been one of our brighter sparks this season and deserves a chance if we can keep him.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Keith » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:54 pm

marky No.1 wrote:Could have a point there, Keith. when Flemmo was replaced by Cranston early October it was only 3 of 4 games later Mandy hit the bench.

Flemmo has a much better eye for a pass rather than a long range punt. Noticeable for me yesterday that he was sliding through forward passes rather than the sideways movements he has been famous for, this is obviously easier done now we have forwards eager on getting the ball.


Little Shrimp wrote:Always thought Fleming linked really nicely with Devitt when he was here as well. Think somebody with similarly good technical ability gives Fleming something to assist/play off.


Good point from Little Shrimp too about Fleming & Devitt together. Strange how we went from being unable to cobble together a healthy midfield earlier in the season, to having an embarrassment of riches now. Cranston was far better in midfield than defence I thought. If Fleming & Mandeville can form a partnership, then where does that leave Wildig, who when fit and on form, is superb? I like Kenyon as a defensive player, although since his goal, he appears to be shooting from everywhere! Oates can be great going forwards, although a bit off the pace yesterday and fitness may be an issue. Who would you start & who would you drop? Does it mean that Jim has the 'luxury' of picking and choosing depending upon who we are playing? But that's my biggest criticism of Jim, that I think he spends too much time worrying about the opposition rather than sticking with our best team and letting them worry about us...

One of the good things about Mandeville's loss of form, when it was... he's much less likely to be on anyone else's radar as the scouts will have missed him at his best! :D :D :D Hopefully we'll get him to sign permanently.

(I typed my reply while Tim was responding... so perhaps not!)
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:10 pm

Hi guys,

Thank you for all the replies.

Could anyone define what position Mandy plays and the formation of the team?

When I went to watch Morecambe the manager played Mandy far right with the mandate of tracking back to defend, not good. In my book Mandy is poor in tackling and tracking back but play him in a central position behind a front two and he is a fantastic play maker.

I am very interested in your views and as you know we all are better at running the team than the manager!!! not sure about that.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Posh » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:34 pm

Liam was outstanding when he came on. Two brilliant touches that left defenders for dead, an outstanding cross and a great header. The ball control to beat two players you rarely see at this level and was a joy to watch.

He’s clearly got some skeletons in his closet but he has the potential to be a massively successful player for us and higher up the leagues. I really hope we’ve got the belief in him that he can make it and in himself to really want it.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby MfcChris » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:29 pm

Posh wrote:He’s clearly got some skeletons in his closet but he has the potential to be a massively successful player for us and higher up the leagues. I really hope we’ve got the belief in him that he can make it and in himself to really want it.

I heard and not sure if true, he goes out drinking/clubbing too much, which you cannot do if you want to be a professional footballer. Yes he is only 21 years old but he should concentrate of rebuilding his career.

He is a class player and could easily play at a higher level (Mark Duffy, Carl Baker level) if he focuses. His touches and skills to get past players in the final part of pitch is one of the best.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Little Shrimp » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:37 pm

alick is my hero wrote:Hi guys,

Thank you for all the replies.

Could anyone define what position Mandy plays and the formation of the team?

When I went to watch Morecambe the manager played Mandy far right with the mandate of tracking back to defend, not good. In my book Mandy is poor in tackling and tracking back but play him in a central position behind a front two and he is a fantastic play maker.

I am very interested in your views and as you know we all are better at running the team than the manager!!! not sure about that.


I saw him on the right earlier this season where he was good, but looked a bit shackled. Came on on the left wing on Saturday and looked far better on that side. Able to more naturally drift into central positions on his stronger foot, which is how I think we'll probably utilise him best in our current system.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby sandgrown » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:24 pm

alick is my hero wrote:Hi guys,

Thank you for all the replies.

Could anyone define what position Mandy plays and the formation of the team?

When I went to watch Morecambe the manager played Mandy far right with the mandate of tracking back to defend, not good. In my book Mandy is poor in tackling and tracking back but play him in a central position behind a front two and he is a fantastic play maker.

I am very interested in your views and as you know we all are better at running the team than the manager!!! not sure about that.


that is where i would like to see him play, his close control will open up any defence !
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Posh » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:27 pm

I'm with Alick. I'd love to see him as a play maker behind a front two or as a false 9 behind a quick striker like a Jack Redshaw.

- - - - - Halstead / Roche - - - - -
- - Sutton - - Old - - Lavelle - -
- - Mills - - Fleming - - Conlan - -
- - - Mandeville - - - Tutte - - -
- - - Bennett (or a quicker striker) - - -

OR

- - - - - Halstead / Roche - - - - -
Mills - - Old - - Lavelle - - Conlan
- - Tutte - - Fleming - - Cranston - -
- - - - - - - Mandeville - - - - - -
- - - - Bennett - - Leitch-Smith - - -

???
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Posh,
Its a no brainer for me. Why is Mandy given a defensive role when he is relatively useless at it. Yet put him behind the strikers and use the strength of his ability. The best form of defence is to attack and this kid has the ability to do it and at a higher level.

Not sure about the drinking and partying but it was rumoured at Donny, he's a silly boy if he is. I think I am right when I say that when our new manager took over he only had Mandy for 3 days before he was loaned out to Morecambe, how could he assess him in that time?

Darren Ferguson was our manager and at one point was always singing Mandy's praises. For some reason Fergy stopped talking to Mandy and sent him out on loan. We never got to the bottom of it but I was pleased to see Fergy go.
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Seasider9601 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:57 am

I can't believe Ferguson has gone back to Peterborough for a THIRD spell in charge having left twice previously by "mutual consent".
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby alick is my hero » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:33 am

Could you give me an update on Mandy's performance Saturday?
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Re: Your opinions on Mandeville

Postby Keith » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:07 am

Almost scored after two minutes, having beaten half the Macclesfield team on his own! If we'd had a 'MotM' award at half time, he'd have clearly won it. Lots of runs, tricks and jinks that came off. Second half he was somewhat lost again. But to be fair, most Morecambe players were somewhat lost once Macclesfield scored their equaliser, so he wasn't alone!

Took a hefty challenge within seconds of the second half starting which may be why he was less effective and ultimately substituted (Rose should have been carded, not even spoken to).
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