Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Old Man Kensey » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:16 pm

Oh thank God, that's our problems sorted then.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:20 pm

We matched them for the first half, they got a bollocking at half time, had a reaction and blew us away.

Buxton exposed at Left back, Brewett looks decent sat in the middle. We had chances but they had more. Kev made an impact when he came on. What did Einstein say about doing the same things over and over?
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby MFC-Manc » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Keith wrote:
Old Man Kensey wrote:Last time I checked hitting the woodwork didn't get you any points. Appalling for 90% of this season. Not good enough all over the pitch. Complete new mindset needed or a quick drop to the conference north will take place.


No, it doesn’t get points but it shows that we weren’t rolled over and with a little luck we’d have got something out of the game.


I’m all for positives.... but
We had an improved first half (which isn’t hard on what we normally do). Bradford looked like they were in 2nd gear for most of the game and could have upped it at anytime.
2nd half was back to the usual.... sideways passing, no movement.....
We Are in deep trouble and people need to realise that(owners especially)
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Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:23 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:I thought the clever arses on here thought Bucky could boss our midfield ??


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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Keith » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:16 pm

MFC-Manc wrote:We Are in deep trouble and people need to realise that(owners especially)


We all realise that. We just disagree with what to do about it. Some people think spending money we don't have on sacking the manager and bringing someone else in who hasn't got any money to spend is better than spending money we haven't got on a centre forward who knows how to shoot.

Both scenarios depend upon spending money we don't have.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby captain sparkle » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:55 pm

The BBC have fixed it for us, (4 minutes in )-
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:07 pm

Keith wrote:
MFC-Manc wrote:We Are in deep trouble and people need to realise that(owners especially)


We all realise that. We just disagree with what to do about it. Some people think spending money we don't have on sacking the manager and bringing someone else in who hasn't got any money to spend is better than spending money we haven't got on a centre forward who knows how to shoot.

Both scenarios depend upon spending money we don't have.


How many strikers do we need? We have perfectly capable strikers at this level. What we don't have is a system that enables them to have 4 or 5 attempts at goal. We don't have any creativity behind them to create enough chances to outscore a team.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Freez » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:40 pm

I agree we have the strikers, but we created as many chances as Bradford today and our forwards look shot shy and short of confidence.
Makes a change to create and miss so many chances, but if we had scored them, as in all games, it would have been different.
But it wasn’t.
Poor Cole has hit the post twice and bar once in his meagre starts, thought he did ok when he came on, as did Kev.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Keith » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:21 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:How many strikers do we need? We have perfectly capable strikers at this level. What we don't have is a system that enables them to have 4 or 5 attempts at goal. We don't have any creativity behind them to create enough chances to outscore a team.


I kind of almost agree with you... almost! Which of our strikers do you think would be first choice at any other League Two club?

I agree that the real problem is midfield not generally creating opportunities or offering support for the defence either. I've said elsewhere that Wildig & Tutte have been very poor. I'm not sure O'Sullivan was MotM today, although he was better than most of the season. Brewitt had a good game, even before scoring. So okay, if we were able to bring in another player, then a decent midfielder would probably be top of the list, but someone who had the confidence in front of goal would make a difference. Look at the goals Miller scored previously. Now he looks shot-shy and trying for a pass rather than a run & shoot. If he could get a couple under his belt, I think he would fly again.

Lavelle, Brewitt or Tanner MotoM for me today.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Phil Anderer » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:55 pm

Couldn't make the game today, but reading it on BBC it looked like we had 18 shots in the last 30 minutes. Surely that shows some spirit? Keep doing that and it must come good; practice makes perfect?
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Angler1 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:08 pm

I think the owners must make a decision, either bring in a new manager with fresh ideas and capable of getting more from the players we have or leave things as they are and accept we will be more than likely relegated at the end of the season.....
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:14 pm

I've been thinking about what the board/owners could do.

Maybe one solution would be to amend Jim's job to First Team Coach and let Kenny go. Then bring in an older more experienced person to be The Team Manager in charge of signings , tactics , formations etc.

About a year ago Paul Ince 's named was mentioned as a possible manager so maybe time to revisit this.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:37 pm

Keith wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:How many strikers do we need? We have perfectly capable strikers at this level. What we don't have is a system that enables them to have 4 or 5 attempts at goal. We don't have any creativity behind them to create enough chances to outscore a team.


I kind of almost agree with you... almost! Which of our strikers do you think would be first choice at any other League Two club?

I agree that the real problem is midfield not generally creating opportunities or offering support for the defence either. I've said elsewhere that Wildig & Tutte have been very poor. I'm not sure O'Sullivan was MotM today, although he was better than most of the season. Brewitt had a good game, even before scoring. So okay, if we were able to bring in another player, then a decent midfielder would probably be top of the list, but someone who had the confidence in front of goal would make a difference. Look at the goals Miller scored previously. Now he looks shot-shy and trying for a pass rather than a run & shoot. If he could get a couple under his belt, I think he would fly again.

Lavelle, Brewitt or Tanner MotoM for me today.


I'm not saying they are League 2 world beaters but they are capable at this level. Stockton, AJ, Lewis and Miller have all scored goals at this level in the past. The system we play isn't striker friendly. Watch Miller for 5 mins. He makes some good runs in between defenders but never gets a through ball. He has to drop deep between the lines to get a kick and becomes ineffective. He is Jevons-esque, on the shoulder. AJ and Lewis are dribblers but are having to force it and end up doing too much. Cole looked lively today but is clearly 4th or 5th choice. We don't create clear chances often enough. We bludgeon our way to goal in the last 30 when chasing a game. We need to be more direct, with a greater urgency for our strikers to fire.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:40 pm

Even first half, they stepped it up second half and we chase the game in the last 10
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Redalert1970 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:54 am

Two months into the season and still to win a game on a Saturday. !!!!!
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby glagys » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:50 pm

Couldn't understand how Lewis our top threat was taking corners, freekicks and throw ins,
surely he would be better used in the area for any knock downs etc,
then he gets subbed when miller offered nothing all game unless he was injured,
perhaps the owners are only interested in the land as a sell on plot,no interest in the club???
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Keith » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:21 am

glagys wrote:
...then he gets subbed when miller offered nothing all game unless he was injured,


Thought it was an odd choice too, but although I didn't see it, I was told Lewis limped down the tunnel so perhaps that's why? Miller looks devoid of confidence. I thought his goal & assist a few weeks ago would have been his turning point, but he looks like he just wants to pass the ball as soon as he gets it.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:24 am

glagys wrote:Couldn't understand how Lewis our top threat was taking corners, freekicks and throw ins,


I'm still a bit worried by this......


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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:07 am

Lewis is technically sound and not 6'3 so i can see why he takes corners and he seems to have a decent arm for long throws. I think there are other things to worry about.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Keith » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:48 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:Lewis is technically sound and not 6'3 so i can see why he takes corners and he seems to have a decent arm for long throws. I think there are other things to worry about.


I agree. We don't have a lot of height up front or midfield generally, which is another reason why we need to use Kev so much.

Many have said he should be used as an impact sub now. That's exactly what he was on Saturday and to good effect.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pm

I wasn't able to make Saturday's game but after watching the highlights I had a feeling of Groundhog Day.

We seem to give teams a 2 goal start and then start playing the sort of football we should be playing when the score was 0-0.
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Re: Morecambe 1 [Brewitt] Bradford 2

Postby Little Shrimp » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:24 pm

What strikes me is how easy we sometimes make it for teams to score against, compared to at the other end of the pitch. We probably should have had another goal looking at our chances, but on pretty much every occasion there were lots of Bradford players back defending and getting in the way, making good chances a bit more difficult.

I think a lot of that probably came from the fact that with the lead, they could afford to get a few more numbers behind the ball while they hit us on the break very adeptly - with their second really coming from the fact that we got stretched on the counter.

Like has been said many times above, our issue does seem to be giving away soft goals, and then stretching ourselves to get something back and leaving ourselves more vulnerable. Their first was really soft. Kenyon was far too easily outpaced, and Brewitt switched off when their player went down and stopped tracking the Bradford player who eventually scored. That said, Brewitt does look a good addition, and good to see him sneaking into the area at good time to grab a couple of goals recently.

Too many soft goals coming about through lack of concentration. Our goal tally isn't great obviously but it's not too poor compared to a lot of teams around us. However, we have conceded the most goals in the division. I think that is really are issue, we need to cut out these crappy stupid goals being conceded.
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