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Postby Redalert1970 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:26 pm

3 points from 24 at home and rock bottom

Sorry I don’t have a clue
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Postby Freez » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:27 pm

Old should have scored, aaagh
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Postby Keith » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:28 pm

Aghhhhhh!!! Old shined it over the bar from 6 yards out!
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Postby Freez » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:29 pm

Correct, tonight you don’t. You aren’t here and can’t see how we have reacted, we are having a right go, but your negativity can’t see that either.
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Postby Keith » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:31 pm

Redalert1970 wrote:3 points from 24 at home and rock bottom

Sorry I don’t have a clue


You haven't got a clue! You've decided this was a "WOEFUL" performance without seeing it, based upon [wrong] BBC statistics alone!
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Postby tim-sanchez » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:36 pm

More disappointed we've lost Alessandra for the crucial match on Saturday rather than the result tonight. He's often our best player and could have caused problems.
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Postby paschahound » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:36 pm

Surely not a red card, that.
ifollow obviously doesn't agree either as there's a high pitched bleep that's deafening. Wonder what Freez cab be saying
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Postby Freez » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:39 pm

Sorry bout that, some problems with a electric overload. bugger.
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Postby Keith » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:40 pm

Saw the replay, it was a yellow card, so fair sending off. Sill to jump in when on a yellow card.

2-0 flattered them but it was anything but "WOEFUL". Not a huge gap in quality between a very wealthy club and a skint, bottom of the league side.

Glen Cooper said "they are the best side I've seen this season". Probably agree with that comment.
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Postby Redalert1970 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:45 pm

Wow 10 points from 45 and still safe thanks to Swindon beating Stevenage in last minute tonight

Saturday one of the biggest games in our football league history
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Postby Andy D » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:57 pm

Keith wrote:Glen Cooper said "they are the best side I've seen this season". Probably agree with that comment.
i was saying the same, very skillfull, and very quick on the counter bringing the ball forward from box to box.

Jim should sit the players down infront of a TV screen and look and learn from them in how to find space to receive the ball.
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Postby MFC-Manc » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 pm

Even first half which was nice

Second half back to hoof ball and negativity, I thought Luke conlan had the worst 45 mins of his career he was shocking in the second half and the free kick.....

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Postby Little Shrimp » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:11 pm

First half, we were solid and generally doing an excellent job at keeping them out. Some of their underlying attacking stats have been poor this season (touches in the opposition box, xG, big chances etc) so letting them pass themselves to death was a good tactic.

However, that doesn't just mean we sit back and do nothing until they make a mistake. We really started to lose control in the first 10 minutes of the second half, and from there the result was pretty inevitable.

In the first half, we'd snapped into tackles and picked our moments to pinch the ball in midfield excellently, then got it forward quickly and accurately to Stockton and Alessandra. Second half started the same, but our distribution once we nicked the ball was dreadful - be it a sloppy pass straight to an FGR player, or a panicked hoof. We started giving the ball straight back to them when we'd won it, meaning they were regaining the ball higher up the pitch. This is what really cranked up the pressure, and resulted in us being so hemmed in.

Have to say I was thoroughly disappointed with the second half after a well played first half. We didn't take our chances to get hold of the ball in the second half, and that ultimately let them dominate further and further up the pitch. Disappointed with JB's subs too - the panicky throw on all your strikers routine. Could really have done with same pace in behind as the dynamic of the match got worse for us, they were high up the pitch and Howard or CMG introduced for Alessandra (on a yellow) earlier (before they scored) would have forced them back a bit more.

I know their first was deflected but this stand and watch the ball malarkey from Roche is poor. He needs to be lighter on his feet - keepers train for this and for shots that take funny deflections. Fair enough if he still couldn't quite reach it but this level of flat footedness is worrying. Distribution was shocking too, and really didn't help us as we became more and more hemmed in. None of his balls were finding Stockton, which would have helped relieve some pressure.

Very good first half but massively let ourselves down in the second, and the substitutions weren't great.
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Postby glagys » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:18 pm

Apart from us being crap second half I thought all the officials were woeful and the liners looked like they weren't allowed to make a decision
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Postby Andy D » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:20 pm

Little Shrimp wrote:

I know their first was deflected but this stand and watch the ball malarkey from Roche is poor. He needs to be lighter on his feet - keepers train for this and for shots that take funny deflections. Fair enough if he still couldn't quite reach it but this level of flat footedness is worrying. Distribution was shocking too, and really didn't help us as we became more and more hemmed in. None of his balls were finding Stockton, which would have helped relieve some pressure.


I felt same watching it go in, i'll certainly be watching it on TV, he's carrying to much weight.
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Postby Keith » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:23 pm

Little Shrimp wrote:First half, we were solid and generally doing an excellent job at keeping them out. Some of their underlying attacking stats have been poor this season (touches in the opposition box, xG, big chances etc) so letting them pass themselves to death was a good tactic.

However, that doesn't just mean we sit back and do nothing until they make a mistake. We really started to lose control in the first 10 minutes of the second half, and from there the result was pretty inevitable.

In the first half, we'd snapped into tackles and picked our moments to pinch the ball in midfield excellently, then got it forward quickly and accurately to Stockton and Alessandra. Second half started the same, but our distribution once we nicked the ball was dreadful - be it a sloppy pass straight to an FGR player, or a panicked hoof. We started giving the ball straight back to them when we'd won it, meaning they were regaining the ball higher up the pitch. This is what really cranked up the pressure, and resulted in us being so hemmed in.

Have to say I was thoroughly disappointed with the second half after a well played first half. We didn't take our chances to get hold of the ball in the second half, and that ultimately let them dominate further and further up the pitch. Disappointed with JB's subs too - the panicky throw on all your strikers routine. Could really have done with same pace in behind as the dynamic of the match got worse for us, they were high up the pitch and Howard or CMG introduced for Alessandra (on a yellow) earlier (before they scored) would have forced them back a bit more.

I know their first was deflected but this stand and watch the ball malarkey from Roche is poor. He needs to be lighter on his feet - keepers train for this and for shots that take funny deflections. Fair enough if he still couldn't quite reach it but this level of flat footedness is worrying. Distribution was shocking too, and really didn't help us as we became more and more hemmed in. None of his balls were finding Stockton, which would have helped relieve some pressure.

Very good first half but massively let ourselves down in the second, and the substitutions weren't great.


Mainly agree although I think part of the 'hoofing' and panic clearances was because FGR were getting in our faces quicker, so not so much a tactic as simply being forced back and having less time. The outcome was the same thing though. Also the subs, you would *hope* Wildig would offer more attacking options than Brewitt but in reality, he never looked forwards and never tried to take a man on. He looks completely devoid of confidence. He is a quality player, but at the moment, I wouldn't even see him come off the bench.

Beaten by the better side but after a decent first half.
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Postby Redalert1970 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:26 pm

Whatever the blinkered supporters might think we are in massive trouble

We need at least 30 points from last 31 games (to give us 40 points) to have a chance of staying up

Who realistically thinks we will achieve that ???
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Postby al1 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:29 pm

Shocked at how certain people can come on here and try to defend their mate jb,an awful negative performance again! John you are so lucky not to have to witness the crap we see at every home game.long live the round up gang!
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Postby Potted Shrimp » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:21 pm

Not long back....

Quite an even first half in all fairness.

Second half performance was absolutely dire. repeatedly sit back and absorb FGR's attacks, hoof ball away and repeat.

Last 75 mins and we actually start to play some half decent football, creating chances. Disgraceful miss towards the end (Old) which any professional footballer should score and the free-kick by Conlan was to be frank, embarrassing. I thought he was awful today and should be ashamed of himself for having the tenacity to put himself forward and take such a shocking free-kick at a crucial time of the game.

A decent mid-week crowd let down by another sub-standard performance. Manager needs to look at himself for tactics employed which for home games seem to be - defend and sit back until we concede and then try to play football. Some individual performances were sub-standard and some players need to have a serious look at themselves and whether they are the standard of the lowest level of the football league.

Don't get the chance to attend often due to work commitments but I am sick and tired of walking out of that stadium angry and annoyed at the crap served up.
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Postby P/T Indie » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:44 am

I don't know how people can say oh it's ok we lost because they were a good team.

At the moment everyone is a better team than us so in that case should we just accept that and say oh well as long as we try hard that's enough because everyone else will play better than us anyway :shock:
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Postby mrpotatohead » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:04 am

I always come away from our games thinking, "they looked fitter than us in the second half"......
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Postby fulwoodshrimp » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:30 am

I thought we were good first half and then ran out of steam. Are we as fit as other sides? We are conceding soft goals where the keeper seems leaden footed and slow to react. Shouldn't Halstead be given his chance. The referee and assistants were dire, nowhere near the standard required for the Football League.
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Postby Keith » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:29 am

Potted Shrimp wrote:...some players need to have a serious look at themselves and whether they are the standard of the lowest level of the football league.


Some of them aren't! Have you not noticed that not only do we lose players like Collins & Mills to clubs where they spend a lot of time on the bench, but we even lose players to non-League sides who pay substantially more than us? Season after season, Jim is expected to create a side out of nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as frustrated as everyone but you wouldn't give Lewis Hamilton a Ford Escort, then moan that he lost every Formula One race!
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Postby redrobo » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:55 am

Whatever was said at half time simply did not work and what followed in the second 45 was in my view a total shambles. We failed to press their midfield and allowed FGR the freedom to control the supply line.

JB said prior to the game that FGR play a possession based game but for some unknown reason best known to himself and his No2 we surrendered and allowed the opposition time and space in which to develop their impressive passing game. Surely when one knows what their game plan was that you at least try to nullify and put pressure on the opposition. To some extent we did that in the first 45, but the way we capitulated in the second half defies logic but showed on this occasion our tactics ( :?: ) to be totally at fault.

JB has to accept that he got it wrong.

So much for looking for our mini winning run to continue. Quite simply FGR are the best team footballing wise that we have seen this season. But it could have been oh so different had we adopted tactics of oppression for the entire 90 rather than simply for the first 45.

Terrible performance and we got what we deserved..... :cry: :cry: :cry:
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