Manager applications?

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Postby BoroRedShrimp » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:09 pm

I agree with Berlin Waller. If it is Mcdermott installed as our new coach then he will be a good addition. Been about abit at championship level but should have plenty of experience at league two level to do a decent job. He should know plenty of contacts for players etc. The only down side is whether he can bring players in on a shoestring budget but overall his coaching experience should be good.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby redrobo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:42 pm

BoroRedShrimp wrote:I agree with Berlin Waller. If it is Mcdermott installed as our new coach then he will be a good addition. Been about abit at championship level but should have plenty of experience at league two level to do a decent job. He should know plenty of contacts for players etc. The only down side is whether he can bring players in on a shoestring budget but overall his coaching experience should be good.



Agree about concerns about budget and coaching but would he be able to handle life in EFL 2 with players of less ability than those he's used to dealing with.... :?: :?: :?:

Location is a concern and if he was to move, who would finance that... :?: :?: :?:

But what will be, will be.

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Re: Manager applications?

Postby Andy D » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:00 pm

redrobo wrote:
BoroRedShrimp wrote:I agree with Berlin Waller. If it is Mcdermott installed as our new coach then he will be a good addition. Been about abit at championship level but should have plenty of experience at league two level to do a decent job. He should know plenty of contacts for players etc. The only down side is whether he can bring players in on a shoestring budget but overall his coaching experience should be good.



Agree about concerns about budget and coaching but would he be able to handle life in EFL 2 with players of less ability than those he's used to dealing with.... :?: :?: :?:

I tend to agree Neil.

3yrs out of the game, although Brian's training methods and tactics will be at a good level, i fear he wont know L2 better than Kevin & Barry.

Also the players seemed happy playing straight forward attacking football, they must be buzzing today, bring on Blackpool!!
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:20 pm

I doubt he is out of the game completely. If he has scouted in the past for top clubs, I bet he is still doing some now.

He has played and managed at non league level, managed and coached at the top level as well as scouted for a top premier league side. What is there not to like?

We have a small budget so we need a manager who can coach and improve players. He will have plenty of contacts within the game.

Don't concern yourself with logistics, if he wants to manage in the FL again, he will have to sort something out.

I'm not sure if he would be my ideal choice but he ticks the boxes and we could do a lot worse.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby Redalert1970 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:28 pm

He has managed up north before - Was he not manager at Leeds for a season

There will be loads of candidates for the job

Whoever takes on the job as got a good set of lads - with only 1 team going down this season the job is probably a bit more appealing than it would have been if the team was cut adrift

We have got Crewe, Crawley and Plymouth away before xmas plus Carlisle and Oldham at home so tough run of fixtures so new manager will have to hit the ground running
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby BoroRedShrimp » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:17 pm

redrobo wrote:
BoroRedShrimp wrote:I agree with Berlin Waller. If it is Mcdermott installed as our new coach then he will be a good addition. Been about abit at championship level but should have plenty of experience at league two level to do a decent job. He should know plenty of contacts for players etc. The only down side is whether he can bring players in on a shoestring budget but overall his coaching experience should be good.



Agree about concerns about budget and coaching but would he be able to handle life in EFL 2 with players of less ability than those he's used to dealing with.... :?: :?: :?:

Location is a concern and if he was to move, who would finance that... :?: :?: :?:

But what will be, will be.

:o


Why would location be a concern for one he has made his money through Leeds, Reading & other clubs to relocate and Jim and ken travelled from Liverpool most days so either way if he gets offered the job I doubt that will be an issue. Hopefully with a big name it should get punters down abit more like Sat with the community day. Hopefully we will see old and new faces come back. Budget and players wouldn't be an issue with his wide spread knowledge of football.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby P/T Indie » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:31 pm

I think I would prefer McDermmot to a lot of the league 1/2 mangers that are forever on the mery go round and he is probably better than Paul Ince who did nothing after Macclesfield.

Didn't he start off his career in non league at Woking & Slough? although I don't think he did much there.

lets say for example your options were Graham Westley, Phil Brown, Kevin Nolan, Brian Mc, Steve Coppell, how would you rank them.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby broadwayshrimp » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:13 pm

It's good that there have been a lot of applications for the the job. However I suspect the Board in particular and possibly the Owners must feel they are under real pressure to get the right person in. As Rod said yesterday the last time we invited applications for the managers job was when we appointed Leighton James in 1994 and he didn't last very long. Sometimes with so many applicants you can be spoilt for choice. Just hope they make the right one and don't regret it.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:26 pm

broadwayshrimp wrote:It's good that there have been a lot of applications for the the job. However I suspect the Board in particular and possibly the Owners must feel they are under real pressure to get the right person in. As Rod said yesterday the last time we invited applications for the managers job was when we appointed Leighton James in 1994 and he didn't last very long. Sometimes with so many applicants you can be spoilt for choice. Just hope they make the right one and don't regret it.


I remember there being some excitement when Leighton James got the job. A quality footballer having played at the top level and internationally. Punting on a big name might not be the best way forward for the club but you can see how owners are attracted to it
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:02 pm

Some interesting changes on sky bet today Brian Mc 2nd favourite behind Baz and Kevin Nolan has gone up to 5th favourite at 6/1.

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-s ... t/24843683

Danny Carlton still there at 20/1 :lol:
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby redrobo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:16 pm

P/T Indie wrote:Some interesting changes on sky bet today Brian Mc 2nd favourite behind Baz and Kevin Nolan has gone up to 5th favourite at 6/1.

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-s ... t/24843683

Danny Carlton still there at 20/1 :lol:


For me my preference has been an interim appointment and then for Kevin to be appointed as I'm not sure Baz wants to get into management.

However if a decision is to make an appointment now then my top 3 would be:

Kevin
Dave Challinor
Terry McPhillips

My reasoning behind Kevin is that he knows the club; he knows the players and he knows on a day to day basis the Directors he would be reporting to. Some would say he has no experience but neither did JB and I would suggest that Kevin is his own man and would do things his way as was demonstrated on Saturday where those who sit in close proximity to him saw a very different Kevin far removed from the joker.

If the Board decided to appoint from outside then it would be DC as his record at AFC of 4 promotions in 8 seasons is exemplary. For him to be sacked after 2 visits last season to Wembley shows the kind of pressure I suspect JB will now be under. Wish him well but if he doesn't get them promoted by 2022 he'll be out!
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:19 pm

I thought you would have been camped outside the Globe today Redrobo seeing who's coming and going.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby redrobo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:26 pm

P/T Indie wrote:I thought you would have been camped outside the Globe today Redrobo seeing who's coming and going.


No bloody bushes to hide behind so I'll leave it for others to keep us informed....maybe yourself....or even Kendal Shrimp who has a knack of knowing things before the rest of us :?: :?: :?:

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Re: Manager applications?

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:32 pm

Maybe they do the interviews somewhere else in a secret location to stop people spying
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby al1 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:50 pm

We promoted from within the club last time and it was a failure on many levels,so lets not make the same mistake.We need someone with experience this time to get us away from the bottom as soon as possible.This is a massive decision for the future of the club and has to be the correct one this time!
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby Slanester » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:36 pm

redrobo wrote:
P/T Indie wrote:Some interesting changes on sky bet today Brian Mc 2nd favourite behind Baz and Kevin Nolan has gone up to 5th favourite at 6/1.

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-s ... t/24843683

Danny Carlton still there at 20/1 :lol:


For me my preference has been an interim appointment and then for Kevin to be appointed as I'm not sure Baz wants to get into management.

However if a decision is to make an appointment now then my top 3 would be:

Kevin
Dave Challinor
Terry McPhillips

My reasoning behind Kevin is that he knows the club; he knows the players and he knows on a day to day basis the Directors he would be reporting to. Some would say he has no experience but neither did JB and I would suggest that Kevin is his own man and would do things his way as was demonstrated on Saturday where those who sit in close proximity to him saw a very different Kevin far removed from the joker.

If the Board decided to appoint from outside then it would be DC as his record at AFC of 4 promotions in 8 seasons is exemplary. For him to be sacked after 2 visits last season to Wembley shows the kind of pressure I suspect JB will now be under. Wish him well but if he doesn't get them promoted by 2022 he'll be out!


Sol Campbell had no managerial experience(??), he ended up doing alright.

Why would Challinor want to come to a club, where the pressure will still be great, but without the money to back it. Lesser expectation by our club, but much lesser availability with regard lots of things. He might just need a job I suppose.

Our previous manager......it really must be an addiction.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby redrobo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:22 pm

According to Kevin 3 interviewed today and a further 3 tomorrow. I got the impression that he's waiting to be asked to attend an interview....if asked at all.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:48 pm

Doesn't sound to hopeful then you would think they would give him a few days to prepare.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:20 pm

Looks like Challinor is going to Hartlepool. Nolan is second favourite now and Kev has dropped down the list.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby BoroRedShrimp » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:02 am

Looks like Nolan and Mcdermott are favourites at the moment. Hoping that after Kevs experience that the club find him a role to continue in some form when he hangs up his boots.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby black morse » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:44 am

Still think we should stick with Kev and Baz for another month. Danger that this rush for another manager will lead to great uncertainty amongst the team just has they've got some momentum. We need the points now to get us off the bottom.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby Seasider9601 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:56 am

P/T Indie wrote:Didn't he start off his career in non league at Woking & Slough? although I don't think he did much there.


He did, at Slough Town, yes.

And I remember Slough fans stood behind the dugout for 90 minutes at Christie Park back in about 1997 and they were protesting most vociferously about him and his tactics......
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby New_Ground_Watcher » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:30 am

Kev and Baz want to keep playing according to Kev on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/KEVIN11ELLISON/stat ... 6664798214
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby Slanester » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:57 am

black morse wrote:Still think we should stick with Kev and Baz for another month. Danger that this rush for another manager will lead to great uncertainty amongst the team just has they've got some momentum. We need the points now to get us off the bottom.


Totally agree bm. Sat was fantastic, and still more in the locker imo. A continuation of the results, style of play, and the obvious motivation, is what is needed in the short term. No extra costs to the club either, must be a positive. That would buy the club time to consider the next move.
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Re: Manager applications?

Postby redrobo » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:11 am

Slanester wrote:
black morse wrote:Still think we should stick with Kev and Baz for another month. Danger that this rush for another manager will lead to great uncertainty amongst the team just has they've got some momentum. We need the points now to get us off the bottom.


Totally agree bm. Sat was fantastic, and still more in the locker imo. A continuation of the results, style of play, and the obvious motivation, is what is needed in the short term. No extra costs to the club either, must be a positive. That would buy the club time to consider the next move.


Totally agree with the above.

Even if the Board put off the decision for the rest of November to see how K&B get on it will still be time to get somebody in before Christmas and the transfer window in January IF the superb team performance of Saturday is a one off.

The worst thing we could do is to rush into an appointment. Better to take our time and hope we get it right.
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