Are we going back?

[MFC-Manc]

Realistically are we going to be able to see a game this season?
When lockdown 2.0 ends, I assume we go back to tiers?
But! If we all act sensible and there is only 800 of us we could mange to safe distance and go separately to the toilets..... couldn’t we?

[nobbyshrimp]

In a word



NO!

Generally people are being bloody stupid! Lockdown 1, most were very good but it's just gone to pot now and I honestly think people in general are doing their own thing by their own rules and I can't see it being allowed for a long time sadly

[marky No.1]

No chance, to get a watchable pre season would be a result imo

[Wild Bill]

With a vaccine being rolled out I am hopeful of at least half a dozen home games.

[marky No.1]

With a vaccine being rolled out I am hopeful of at least half a dozen home games.

Interesting point, that would be 13th March, i suspect you are probably in the 5th? tier of the jab, will that be in time, will we have to show we have had 2 injections to get through the turnstile?
They don't know yet that having the vaccine stops you passing the virus on

[Wild Bill]

With the most vulnerable hopefully vaccinated within three months I'd expect most restrictions to lift regardless whether younger people have had one or not.

[marky No.1]

We can only wait and see, Professor Sahin has just been on saying he is hoping that everyone will be vaccinated for Autumn next year, meanwhile social media platforms are being told to remove the harmful anti vaccine posts

[Keith]

meanwhile social media platforms are being told to remove the harmful anti vaccine posts

The problem with that is, it will feed in to the paranoid conspiracy theorists even more as 'evidence' that they are being suppressed from spreading 'the truth'.

I spoke to some people in the UK yesterday. At least three different households, possibly four, all getting together for a meal last night. I said "I thought you weren't supposed to be doing that?" They replied "oh, we're just doing our own thing now". They've said for a long time, since Cummings lied about his wife's birthday trip to Barnard Castle, that if the government aren't sticking to the rules, why should they? I suspect there is a huge proportion of the population that are doing just that.

The government remain clueless. A pandemic was the number one identified risk to the country in the last 'Risk Register' (it was annually reviewed up to 2017, when the government stopped it). Identify the risk, then do nothing to plan for it or mitigate it? That's beyond incompetence, it is negligence.

If we're lucky, small numbers will get back to see games before the end of the season (circa 500 I would think), perhaps shortly after Christmas. Knowing our luck, we'll get to the Third Round of the FA Cup and draw Liverpool at home. It will be played the week before any fans can get in!

We will never forget our Centenary, that's for sure!

[marky No.1]

if the government aren't sticking to the rules, why should they? I suspect there is a huge proportion of the population that are doing just that.

Absolutely, yes.
I would say 25% are compliant and hiding away in total isolation as they are particularly vulnerable or simply obey the rules.

25% are trying their best, but can't help the fact that a key worker, pupil or student enter the household.

25% stay away from congregations, but are quite happy to meet up and socialise with friends and family while not kissing or cuddling them.

15% don't believe in it and won't be told what to do.

10% just don't give a sh!t and will be jumping around having house parties

[asda shrimp]

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[Gone_Shrimping]

if the government aren't sticking to the rules, why should they? I suspect there is a huge proportion of the population that are doing just that.

Absolutely, yes.
I would say 25% are compliant and hiding away in total isolation as they are particularly vulnerable or simply obey the rules.

25% are trying their best, but can't help the fact that a key worker, pupil or student enter the household.

25% stay away from congregations, but are quite happy to meet up and socialise with friends and family while not kissing or cuddling them.

15% don't believe in it and won't be told what to do.

10% just don't give a sh!t and will be jumping around having house parties

Which category were all the BLM protests in the Summer filed under ? I don't remember a single arrest and yet the police were harrassing a couple of people who were daring to walk in the Peak District !

[morecambegeek]

Arrests were made, google is your friend.

Sorry to to spoil your agenda.

[Gone_Shrimping]

They must have been reported on page 67 of the Guardian !

Whether there were or not is irrelevant. There was the nauseating site of huge protests in the Capital weekend after weekend , often publicised in advance with people definitely not "social distancing". Not totally unexpected given the stance of the useless Mayor of London and the equally useless head of the Metropolitan Police. These "demos" had far more effect on peoples' thinking than a chap and his wife with Covid symptoms driving to a safe location to isolate with their young child.

I don't have an "agenda" so didn't have one to spoil

[Freez]

A chap and his wife with COVID symptoms driving to isolate their child!!

That sentence belies the fact you have no agenda, but that’s only my opinion!

[Westgate Wanderer]

Don't forget the Scottish MP on her train trip from London! (I obviously forgot her name).

[Sakhalin Shrimp]

Just because some people who should/do know better act like kn*bs doesn't mean everyone should.

[morecambegeek]

Just because some people act like kn*bs doesn't mean everyone should.

Come on, Gone_shrimping's posts aren't that bad.

[Keith]

Which category were all the BLM protests in the Summer filed under ? I don't remember a single arrest

Arrests were made, google is your friend.

Whether there were or not is irrelevant.

Got to say, that's impressive. In the long, weird & often confusing history of Shrimpsvoices, I can't recall anyone else making a political statement, then saying their own statement was "irrelevant"!

[Gone_Shrimping]

Which category were all the BLM protests in the Summer filed under ? I don't remember a single arrest

Arrests were made, google is your friend.

Whether there were or not is irrelevant.

Got to say, that's impressive. In the long, weird & often confusing history of Shrimpsvoices, I can't recall anyone else making a political statement, then saying their own statement was "irrelevant"!

The point being made was that the police did nothing to disperse the BLM gatherings weekend after weekend despite advance knowledge that these law-breaking protests were going to take place.

You could also add the polices' inaction to prevent Extinction Rebellion from vandalism and other crimes including digging up lawns while they just watched.

[Gone_Shrimping]

Don't forget the Scottish MP on her train trip from London! (I obviously forgot her name).

There was also Stephen Kinnock travelling from Wales to London for Neil's birthday party. Again probably on page 68 of the Guardian.

[Gone_Shrimping]

A chap and his wife with COVID symptoms driving to isolate their child!!

That sentence belies the fact you have no agenda, but that’s only my opinion!

No agenda. I was just correcting a wrong assumption. But that's only my opinion !

[Phil Anderer]

Which category were all the BLM protests in the Summer filed under ? I don't remember a single arrest

Arrests were made, google is your friend.

Whether there were or not is irrelevant.

Got to say, that's impressive. In the long, weird & often confusing history of Shrimpsvoices, I can't recall anyone else making a political statement, then saying their own statement was "irrelevant"!

The point being made was that the police did nothing to disperse the BLM gatherings weekend after weekend despite advance knowledge that these law-breaking protests were going to take place.

You could also add the polices' inaction to prevent Extinction Rebellion from vandalism and other crimes including digging up lawns while they just watched.

I might be wrong but I think there was something in the original lockdown restrictions which permitted public protests. I only think that because I read something about that provision specifically not being included in this second lockdown, in contrast to the first.

[Wild Bill]

I might be wrong but I think there was something in the original lockdown restrictions which permitted public protests. I only think that because I read something about that provision specifically not being included in this second lockdown, in contrast to the first.

Yes, I believe protests were never actually banned, however social distancing was still required. I think the ones in Lancaster did this very well (I saw photos of people sat spaced out in Dalton Square) but the larger ones in big cities became too crowded to realistically keep distances and some used it as an excuse for a kick-off.

Quite telling though that some get more annoyed by poor social distancing and lawns being damaged than the rights and life chances of minority groups or the survival of the planet.

[marky No.1]

Nick Hancock all over tv today, even appeared to face Piers this morning after 200 days and is now hosting the CV update.
With Boris isolating and his advisors gone it seems like a new chapter.
Meanwhile 53 pupils have tested positive at Sedbergh School

[Gone_Shrimping]

Quite telling that some people in the UK are more concerned with the unlawful killing by a USA Policeman of a man convicted of armed robbery and drug dealing than they are when a British Soldier (Lee Rigby) is beheaded in broad daylight in a London street by Islamic terrorists.
Also quite telling how some people are taken in by the people digging up lawns , blocking off roads and stopping ambulances , before they get picked up by mum and dad in the Range Rover and then going home and switching up the central heating.