Sakhalin Shrimp wrote:I was under the impression that the wearing a mask/face covering was to protect others from any virus the wearer may exhale rather than protecting the wearer.
I may be wrong though, thoughts?
Phil Anderer wrote:Sakhalin Shrimp wrote:I was under the impression that the wearing a mask/face covering was to protect others from any virus the wearer may exhale rather than protecting the wearer.
I may be wrong though, thoughts?
You're pretty much right there. A mask gives a small amount of protection to the wearer, but it's primary function is to protect others from the wearer. I am frankly quite infuriated at Dithering Doris and the public school pinheads (good band name though ). We have a significantly more transmissible virus, a substantially more overwhelmed NHS, and significantly lower adherence to the rules than in spring, yet we have a materially lighter lockdown. We need more stringent rules. Mrs A, like Neil, is an asthma sufferer, so we are very conscious of distancing etc. Last week whilst out walking I asked a woman to give us a little more room to pass safely, but according to her 'life's too short' to step 3 feet to one side! As I said to her her life will be a lot shorter with that attitude.
tim-sanchez wrote:I wear a mask pretty much at all times now. Similar to your experience, you just never know when you're walking past someone you might suddenly burst into a cough or sneeze. Or it might be myself! There's no harm in wearing a mask even if it only gives 1% better protection, I'll do what I can to prevent the spread.
Born again Bill wrote:tim-sanchez wrote:I wear a mask pretty much at all times now. Similar to your experience, you just never know when you're walking past someone you might suddenly burst into a cough or sneeze. Or it might be myself! There's no harm in wearing a mask even if it only gives 1% better protection, I'll do what I can to prevent the spread.
It doesn’t help when you can go on line and for a few quid you can get an official looking badge saying you are exempt from wearing a mask . I know some one who has bought one , in his words “ I’m not wearing one of those bloody things “ !, this is a bloke mid 70s with underlying health problems . What a hero !!!
Phil Anderer wrote: according to her 'life's too short' to step 3 feet to one side!
BerlinWaller wrote:Is there any proof that wearing a soggy cloth or tissue actually stops the spread of the virus? If we were walking around in surgical standard equipment then I would be all for it but cloths and tissue that you stick in your glove box or pocket when not in use can't be up to much.
Sakhalin Shrimp wrote:BerlinWaller wrote:Is there any proof that wearing a soggy cloth or tissue actually stops the spread of the virus? If we were walking around in surgical standard equipment then I would be all for it but cloths and tissue that you stick in your glove box or pocket when not in use can't be up to much.
A soggy cloth?? Methinks you should be replacing/laundering your mask a little more regularly.
Turning your question around, is there any proof that they don’t help prevent spread?
P/T Indie wrote:Also make sure you take Vitamin D there was scientific evidence right from the start that it helped and our government just ignored it until recently.
redrobo wrote:It should now be written in law that everybody with no exceptions should wear a mask when in public and if those who are unable to for medical reasons than they shouldn't be out and about in the first place as they will be endangering not only their own life but that of others putting even more strain on our overworked but excellent NHS.
They should make use of neighbours, family or even on line for shopping.
It's time to get tough. Too many are flouting the suggested rules and those suggestions should now be made law and if any one breaks the law they should be fined.
That type of action will not be popular BUT we have to get a hold of the current situation and if that means encroaching on ones liberty then so be it.
I realise that the above will not be greeted with 100% approval but it's time that everybody with no exceptions took responsibility for defeating this horrible virus if we don't then the number of deaths will increase day on day until it becomes uncontrollable.
redrobo wrote: but it's time that everybody with no exceptions took responsibility for defeating this horrible virus if we don't then the number of deaths will increase day on day until it becomes uncontrollable.
BerlinWaller wrote:redrobo wrote:It should now be written in law that everybody with no exceptions should wear a mask when in public and if those who are unable to for medical reasons than they shouldn't be out and about in the first place as they will be endangering not only their own life but that of others putting even more strain on our overworked but excellent NHS.
They should make use of neighbours, family or even on line for shopping.
It's time to get tough. Too many are flouting the suggested rules and those suggestions should now be made law and if any one breaks the law they should be fined.
That type of action will not be popular BUT we have to get a hold of the current situation and if that means encroaching on ones liberty then so be it.
I realise that the above will not be greeted with 100% approval but it's time that everybody with no exceptions took responsibility for defeating this horrible virus if we don't then the number of deaths will increase day on day until it becomes uncontrollable.
What about people with Asthma or anxiety about wearing a mask? It is about as fair as asking you to touch your toes before you enter a shop.
Whitty and his mates went to great lengths to point out that there is very little science to back up mask wearing last year. It is all over youtube, have a look. At what point has the mask wearing had an impact on the infection rate? Why has there been 2 lockdowns since we started masks? I get people wanting to wear them, just like i understand why people don't get on planes but arming people to confront others is crazy.
BerlinWaller wrote:
Whitty and his mates went to great lengths to point out that there is very little science to back up mask wearing last year. It is all over youtube, have a look. At what point has the mask wearing had an impact on the infection rate? Why has there been 2 lockdowns since we started masks? I get people wanting to wear them, just like i understand why people don't get on planes but arming people to confront others is crazy.
Wearing a mask if you don't have an infection reduces the risk almost not at all.
shrimp in cyprus wrote:Living over here in North Cyprus, I continue to be totally amazed at the "slackness" being shown in the UK. Over here we have been wearing masks in public places (and most certainly all supermarkets, shops and offices) since last April. Also virtually all supermarkets have an automatic temperature checker which everybody entering has to be checked by (any high temperatures and the person is refused entry and recommended to go straight to hospital for checks). The use of hand sanitizer and disposable polythene gloves is also commonplace over here.
OK...............but does it work I hear the skeptics saying.
Well, we do get more (much more) sunshine, so Vitamin D is not an issue; we do not tend to congregate in such large numbers as happens in the cities of the UK; the police do tend to be somewhat stricter (but not always); BUT - if the percentage of the population here that has died from this virus were to be applied (as the same percentage of population) to the UK, then the UK would currently have had a total (since this thing began) of around 1100 deaths!!!
Not much more to add to this except, I do remember when I was a kid back in Heysham, I used to regularly hear........... COUGHS AND SNEEZES SPREAD DISEASES; TRAP YOUR GERMS IN HANDKERCHIEVSES. So, nothing really new then is it.
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