o/t European Super League

[tim-sanchez]

Grimsby have started a kit amnesty: https://t.co/h3TsGZZXjU

[black morse]

Grimsby have started a kit amnesty: https://t.co/h3TsGZZXjU

Guess they haven't sold many Grimsby shirts this season then

No, seriously it sounds like a good idea.

[Freez]

How many other teams would get 85,000 at Wembley?
Well, there are two other in London I can think of!!
Arrogant twaddle from all 6 clubs and Gone Shrimping still thinking Spurs are bigger than they are!
It’s fun on here these days!!

[Keith]

If the FA/Premiership had balls, they'd call their bluff and say 'okay, off you go'.

No promotion to/from the Super League/Premiership.
No FA Cup.
No League Cup.

Prisoners in your own gilded cage.

If it doesn't work out and you want to return to English football, you have to start in the National League.

That would give them something to consider, if it doesn't work out and place some element of doubt.

Sky/BT Sport would have to produce a separate package. The fans of the breakaway clubs would get it but would fans of the rest of football? Perhaps, but probably not. Would pubs pay for both packages or only one? If only one, would it be the Premiership package? No doubt the Asian & Middle East markets would lap it up and it would be extremely popular & lucrative, but I think that in a few years time it would be like living in England and choosing to support Rangers or Celtic.

With the Billy-Big-Bollocks teams out of the way, the rest of football can be on a fairer, more equitable footing. The top Premiership clubs stopped giving a monkey's about the fans decades ago. Let them go.

[Keith]

Grimsby have started a kit amnesty: https://t.co/h3TsGZZXjU

Great idea. I'd love to see us do the same!

[Niborian_Shrimp]

If they could kick the 6 out before Saturday so as to remove some of the stress I have regarding the Bolton game that would be grand.

Void relegation across the leagues, top 6 of each league goes up to fill in the gap.
We would be sitting very nicely.

[Gone_Shrimping]

:D How many other teams would get 85,000 at Wembley?
Well, there are two other in London I can think of!!
Arrogant twaddle from all 6 clubs and Gone Shrimping still thinking Spurs are bigger than they are!
It’s fun on here these days!!

I don't think the other 2 would have 85k for a home game against Burnley , it's like watching paint dry , maybe not as entertaining as watching paint dry

Spurs are big , very big , and have the best football stadium in the world but are not successful in terms of trophies.

Another big club is Newcastle , huge in terms of support , and they haven't won a major honour since the 1960's.

[Angler1]

Boot them out of Premier league , overpaid and crap anyway. Just promote 6 from championship and so on...

[Westgate Wanderer]

:D How many other teams would get 85,000 at Wembley?
Well, there are two other in London I can think of!!
Arrogant twaddle from all 6 clubs and Gone Shrimping still thinking Spurs are bigger than they are!
It’s fun on here these days!!

I don't think the other 2 would have 85k for a home game against Burnley , it's like watching paint dry , maybe not as entertaining as watching paint dry

Spurs are big , very big , and have the best football stadium in the world but are not successful in terms of trophies.

Another big club is Newcastle , huge in terms of support , and they haven't won a major honour since the 1960's.

Wasn't it the 1960's when Spurs last won the league championship?

[Freez]

Spurs are big, I agree.
Gone shrimping loves searching on the net to back up his argument.
This will show that Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea all have larger support in the UK as of 2020.
As for abroad, it’s more of the same.
Sorry, don’t agree with the big 6, and it’s a daft argument about who is bigger, but let’s have it right!

[Gone_Shrimping]

:D How many other teams would get 85,000 at Wembley?
Well, there are two other in London I can think of!!
Arrogant twaddle from all 6 clubs and Gone Shrimping still thinking Spurs are bigger than they are!
It’s fun on here these days!!

I don't think the other 2 would have 85k for a home game against Burnley , it's like watching paint dry , maybe not as entertaining as watching paint dry

Spurs are big , very big , and have the best football stadium in the world but are not successful in terms of trophies.

Another big club is Newcastle , huge in terms of support , and they haven't won a major honour since the 1960's.

Wasn't it the 1960's when Spurs last won the league championship?

I did say Spurs weren't very successful ! It is possible to be a big club without winning much. Newcastle probably have more "local" support than most Premier League clubs. As as has been mentioned before when Manchester United lose they are crying in Taunton and Tokyo ! Manchester City are the club that has most support with Manchester.
Tottenham should have won the PL in the years Leicester and Chelsea won it recently but they bottled it. That is what supporting Tottenham has been like , beautiful football but not much silverware !

[Freez]

And good for you supporting them through thick and thin, and not wanting them to follow the money, it’s the same here, as a youngster went everywhere watching Chelsea, hence my friendship with Glen as often we were both at home on the same Saturday and found ourselves on the same Euston train there and back.
Hate the money chasing, but loving the Shrimps even more as it’s my home town team and we never dreamed season like this could happen under Tommy Ferber, Micky Hoggarth and the like!!

[P/T Indie]

Talking of local support I think its going to be Liverpool fans that need to take the lead on this one.

Out of the 6 for me it's Liverpool that have the more hardcore support and where the club is part of the community.

I might be wrong but for me the fanbase of the other are probably from further a field or in Man City case people who have come to the party late.

I just cant see the other teams been as passionate when push comes to shove but I can see images of thousands of angry scousers marching down anfield rd.

[Keith]

I can see images of thousands of angry scousers marching down anfield rd.

But Liverpool FC's owners can't see Anfield Road from the USA. But they can see the franchise's bank account from their desks, so that's okay.

[Screenster]

Florentino Perez (the Real Madrid President and the brainchild behind this) has been speaking to Spanish TV tonight.

One of the things he said is as follows:

"The attractive thing in football is playing between big clubs, the value for television increases and more income is generated. It's not just the rich who want the Super League, we're doing it to save football because it's at a critical moment.”

Just...where do you even begin to break down just how WRONG that is?

[Alan]

If the FA/Premiership had balls, they'd call their bluff and say 'okay, off you go'.

No promotion to/from the Super League/Premiership.
No FA Cup.
No League Cup.

Prisoners in your own gilded cage.

If it doesn't work out and you want to return to English football, you have to start in the National League.

That would give them something to consider, if it doesn't work out and place some element of doubt.

Agree fully with that Keith......tell them to leave at the end of this season..why wait !

A premier of 20 and 3 leagues of 22 leaving a bit more time for cup replays, let them back into lge 2
and they can make their way up the pyramid, giving all the clubs a few seasons to perhaps make some extra money. Hopefully it might then dawn on them what football is really about.

There is no way the FA/Premiership should offer them any incentive not to go. Call their possible bluff.

[ChrisC]

Maybe a good opportunity to persuade some disillusioned local Man Utd and Liverpool fans to support their local EFL teams! Especially one doing well at the moment!

[Angler1]

It's total greed , football at this level is unsustainable It's become too expensive. So this to me is just another pot of money so they can pay even bigger ludicrous wages.

[jbc.shrimp]

Once these greedy clubs start playing all over the world, spare a thought for the supporters of these parasites who have followed and paid out good money and made the history to get right shafted by the likes of greedy owners .Get rid of the premiership and lets have the 72 EFL clubs plus the conference getting our own deal with a tv company
Yes it will be hard for some clubs, but lets get our own rules/regs and have the fans on the board with elections to a new Efl board.
Lets get back to fans football, even get the anglo italion cup back.

A little unfair to say 'just 72 clubs'. Let's not forget, there are clubs in the prem that are against this. Let's go more for, those that want to go, bye bye, make 4 fresh 'division's out of the remaining teams, and go with your suggestion of fans led BoD's. Get a fresh T.V. deal and see how that goes.

[jbc.shrimp]

If the FA/Premiership had balls, they'd call their bluff and say 'okay, off you go'.

No promotion to/from the Super League/Premiership.
No FA Cup.
No League Cup.

Prisoners in your own gilded cage.

If it doesn't work out and you want to return to English football, you have to start in the National League.

That would give them something to consider, if it doesn't work out and place some element of doubt.

Sky/BT Sport would have to produce a separate package. The fans of the breakaway clubs would get it but would fans of the rest of football? Perhaps, but probably not. Would pubs pay for both packages or only one? If only one, would it be the Premiership package? No doubt the Asian & Middle East markets would lap it up and it would be extremely popular & lucrative, but I think that in a few years time it would be like living in England and choosing to support Rangers or Celtic.

With the Billy-Big-Bollocks teams out of the way, the rest of football can be on a fairer, more equitable footing. The top Premiership clubs stopped giving a monkey's about the fans decades ago. Let them go.

+1.

[tim-sanchez]

Everton stand against it, and give us a shout-out in their statement as well: https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866/ ... -the-board

[black morse]

Everton stand against it, and give us a shout-out in their statement as well: https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866/ ... -the-board

Excellent statement by Everton.

Maybe the defecting fans from Liverpool will switch their support to Everton?

[redrobo]

It would appear that the majority of criticism is coming from those countries where clubs are reported to be in the process of forming this ludicrous league.

As football has a world stage there is a feeling in countries who only view teams scheduled to take part via TV and that the proposal opens up an entirely new offering for those prepared to line the pockets of the clubs owners by paying a match viewing fee of whatever is determined in the days and weeks to come.

The opposition to this new league is home grown in those countries involved NOT according to the mid day radio news from countries such as India and China where populations are huge who would have access to viewing some of the worlds leading players.

The Chairman of Real Madrid claimed that the move was to develop the game throughout the world but did accept that it was finance driven as clubs like his are loosing money.

Maybe if they and others particularly in this country refused to pay the absorbent wages they they currently pay players then the need for even extra finance would be significantly reduced.

I'm totally against this league BUT I can to some degree understand the desire of the world audience to be able to pay to view those participating clubs whatever the cost.

Maybe those who are prepared to drop their allegiance to the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool would support other more localised clubs such as our own beloved MFC....

[Phil Anderer]

It would appear that the majority of criticism is coming from those countries where clubs are reported to be in the process of forming this ludicrous league.

As football has a world stage there is a feeling in countries who only view teams scheduled to take part via TV and that the proposal opens up an entirely new offering for those prepared to line the pockets of the clubs owners by paying a match viewing fee of whatever is determined in the days and weeks to come.

The opposition to this new league is home grown in those countries involved NOT according to the mid day radio news from countries such as India and China where populations are huge who would have access to viewing some of the worlds leading players.

The Chairman of Real Madrid claimed that the move was to develop the game throughout the world but did accept that it was finance driven as clubs like his are loosing money.

Maybe if they and others particularly in this country refused to pay the absorbent wages they they currently pay players then the need for even extra finance would be significantly reduced.

I'm totally against this league BUT I can to some degree understand the desire of the world audience to be able to pay to view those participating clubs whatever the cost.

Maybe those who are prepared to drop their allegiance to the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool would support other more localised clubs such as our own beloved MFC....

Supporters of the clubs should, in the majority, be from the area the club is based. These should be the clubs' bread and butter, and the ones they should not be letting down but thinking about at all times. This shows that they don't give a flying you-know-what about the loyal supporters who turn up week in/week out, but would rather earn their money from people hundreds and thousands of miles away who never set foot in their stadium.

Let them go and good riddance.

[P/T Indie]

I can see images of thousands of angry scousers marching down anfield rd.

But Liverpool FC's owners can't see Anfield Road from the USA. But they can see the franchise's bank account from their desks, so that's okay.

and they don't care about the scousers or if there are any fans in the stadium as long as there are people in Asia willing to pay to watch them on TV.