Sam Lavelle

[Little Shrimp]

Anybody know any body language experts who wouldn't mind taking a look at videos of Sam Lavelle at full time?

I thought him starting last night was a bit of a twist in the whole saga. Hopefully a sign that the move to Wycombe may not be happening, although let's wait and see over the next few days.

[Pandashrimp]

Anybody know any body language experts who wouldn't mind taking a look at videos of Sam Lavelle at full time?

I thought him starting last night was a bit of a twist in the whole saga. Hopefully a sign that the move to Wycombe may not be happening, although let's wait and see over the next few days.

(Definitely reading too much in to it ) but my thoughts on his body language last night were positive after the first goal. Thumping the badge. After the game though I actually thought some of the players looked to be pushing him to the front a bit and that could be one of two reasons - say your goodbyes or show your commitment. This is definitely reading too much into it though !

Guess next few days will be big. What’s most important is he’s taken the club through a very tough period and into our most successful. Wouldn’t begrudge him a move up one bit but let’s hope he stays and continues something special

[Wild Bill]

Starting the game and celebrating the goal suggested that he was actually going to stay. Leading the aplause of the fans at the end could be a seen as a potential farewell. Fingers crossed he stays though as he really is our Mr Morecambe on the pitch.

[glagys]

Just read that Wycombe we’re close to meeting Morecambe’s valuation of 200K
Think he’s worth more unless we put in a good sell on

[BerlinWaller]

Ipswich have signed a CB from Accy

[Relapsed_Shrimp]

Plays today's, suggests it's still some way off or not happening at all if you ask me

[glagys]

Still think he could do better than Wycombe
Really a bad move for Sam
JMO though

[P/T Indie]

Anything less than 300k and I would refuse to sell and would be happy to see him leave for a better move than wycombe for free in thesummer.

I think he is that important to lead us through our first season in league 1.Also we are not a poor club anymore and have just banked around 500k from carlos.

Sam is a professional and would still do a good job and he would know when be became a free agent he could get a better move.

I think we would also struggle to get a quality replacement so late in the window.

[Keith]

Anything less than 300k and I would refuse to sell and would be happy to see him leave for a better move than wycombe for free in thesummer.

I think he is that important to lead us through our first season in league 1.Also we are not a poor club anymore and have just banked around 500k from carlos.

Sam is a professional and would still do a good job and he would know when be became a free agent he could get a better move.

I think we would also struggle to get a quality replacement so late in the window.

Broadly agree... Sign an extension (PLEASE!!!) or, keep until January, then sell for £100k. Still be worth the £150k we'd lose from selling him now, if it helps to keep us in League One.

But better still, just sign the contract extension Sam! You know you love being here!!!

[BerlinWaller]

Sam was excellent again yesterday and showed how he can both mix it with attackers and be a ball carrying centre back. He conducts himself brilliantly even with all this speculation going on.

[redrobo]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sourc ... -interest/

Old news or the very latest update.....

[redrobo]

Accy have sold their centre half to Ipswich for a rumoured £750K which is an incredible fee for someone who the Accy fans haven't seen play due to the virus.

IF the figure is correct (which I doubt; more like £250K) then the reported fee we are wanting for Sam means that it's a bargain and our club should hold out for a figure around £350K or even higher.

[Phil Anderer]

Accy have sold their centre half to Ipswich for a rumoured £750K which is an incredible fee for someone who the Accy fans haven't seen play due to the virus.

IF the figure is correct (which I doubt; more like £250K) then the reported fee we are wanting for Sam means that it's a bargain and our club should hold out for a figure around £350K or even higher.

What length contract did the Accy player have? Likely to be very relevant to the fee paid.

[redrobo]

One thing that I never realised was that a player under contract with a club has no say in any transfer matter. If his current club decide to accept a bid for him then he simply has to go whether he wants to or not.

Sam from my understanding is Morecambe through and through but doesn't want to move to another EFL1 club. He just wants to play football but not at a club that he doesn't want to go to.....even if it would be to his financial benefit....

[Keith]

One thing that I never realised was that a player under contract with a club has no say in any transfer matter. If his current club decide to accept a bid for him then he simply has to go whether he wants to or not.

I'm not saying you are wrong... ...but I'm pretty sure you are!

I think a club has to accept a bid before a player is allowed to talk terms with another club. If the player & bidding club can't agree terms, then nothing happens. Players/agents can't talk to other clubs except in specific situations, which I think is January onwards when their contract is due to expire that year.

Sam has a new contract from us, on the table. Come on Sam, just sign it!

[Gone_Shrimping]

One thing that I never realised was that a player under contract with a club has no say in any transfer matter. If his current club decide to accept a bid for him then he simply has to go whether he wants to or not.

Sam from my understanding is Morecambe through and through but doesn't want to move to another EFL1 club. He just wants to play football but not at a club that he doesn't want to go to.....even if it would be to his financial benefit....

I don't think a player could be transferred to a club he didn't want to move to unless he accepted the move and also if he signed the forms. If a player refused to sign for another club then it's no deal as Noel Edmonds used to say !

[redrobo]

My info came from someone closely connected to Sam.

The person concerned was in a conversation with both myself and someone else about the position and it was they who told us BOTH of the situation.

[Little Shrimp]

I'm not sure of the exact rules, but I think in this situation it may be somewhat immaterial.

If Lavelle really really wanted the move and the money was right, then I don't think the club would stand in his way and faff about.

If the club got a great bid they felt they had to accept but Lavelle wanted to stay, then I don't think the club would attempt to force him out or anything. Didn't this happen with Jack Redshaw and Peterborough?

[chipbuns]

One thing that I never realised was that a player under contract with a club has no say in any transfer matter. If his current club decide to accept a bid for him then he simply has to go whether he wants to or not.

Sam from my understanding is Morecambe through and through but doesn't want to move to another EFL1 club. He just wants to play football but not at a club that he doesn't want to go to.....even if it would be to his financial benefit....

A player being forced to move against his will just because 2 teams have agreed a fee? Yet him and his agent can negotiate contract details with the clubs? I smell bs.

[Phil Anderer]

One thing that I never realised was that a player under contract with a club has no say in any transfer matter. If his current club decide to accept a bid for him then he simply has to go whether he wants to or not.

Sam from my understanding is Morecambe through and through but doesn't want to move to another EFL1 club. He just wants to play football but not at a club that he doesn't want to go to.....even if it would be to his financial benefit....

Neil, it's Sam signs the contract, not the club. He must have the option not to sign. I do not see how, legally, he could be forced to accept it. Before anyone points to people being 'forced' to sign new contracts, they always have the option to say no, albeit they will probably lose their job. In Sam's case this clearly wouldn't be the case, as he has an alternative contract from Morecambe to sign. Otherwise he has a contract to the end of this season then he can go wherever he likes. He categorically doesn't have to go to Wycombe if he doesn't want to.

(Edited following further private discussion)

I understand now why Neil is convinced this is true, but in my opinion if Sam has a clause in his contract that gives him no option but to go wherever the club sells him, that would be borderline slavery, i.e. selling him to the highest bidder with him having no choice but to go work there (albeit obviously he'll get paid). I doubt Wycombe would want a player that expressly doesn't want to play for them, as he's hardly likely to give them 100%. If this is the threat, firstly I seriously doubt the club would want the bad publicity that might ensue, and secondly I would advise Sam to get some legal advice, as there ought to be some law, such as the Unfair Contract Terms Act, that he could use to get out of any such move.

I sincerely hope it is a misunderstanding somewhere down the line, rather than being factually accurate, as it does not seem to be particularly fair on the player, and to my mind doesn't reflect well on the club.

[redrobo]

According to the Wycombe fans forum they are now saying that Wigan fans on twitter reckon that Wigan are in for our Captain and if so it makes any move to Wycombe now out of the question.

IF true it would certainly appeal I suspect to Sam if only for their geographical position.

Maybe Alan Nixon knows what is going on....

[redrobo]

More speculation about Sam...this time it's Wigan...

From Wigan fans twitter:

Someone else on twitter said Lavelle plus someone from Bristol City signing today.

It's Twitter so obviously needs to be taken with a giant pinch of salt and Lavelle might just be repeating the earlier rumour that may or may not have been accurate, but thought it was worth mentioning in case there was any truth in it.

If there is any truth i don't see any obvious candidates in the Bristol squad who fit what we are looking for, unless it's a young lad. I couldn't see it being Williams as he is injured again - the poor lad has been cursed since he left here.

[Gone_Shrimping]

More speculation about Sam...this time it's Wigan...

From Wigan fans twitter:

Someone else on twitter said Lavelle plus someone from Bristol City signing today.

It's Twitter so obviously needs to be taken with a giant pinch of salt and Lavelle might just be repeating the earlier rumour that may or may not have been accurate, but thought it was worth mentioning in case there was any truth in it.

If there is any truth i don't see any obvious candidates in the Bristol squad who fit what we are looking for, unless it's a young lad. I couldn't see it being Williams as he is injured again - the poor lad has been cursed since he left here.

At least Wigan have some money so if its true at least we will get proper money. Wycombe are cheapskates without a pot to pee in.

[Shrimp Girl]

The chap who started the Wigan talk has tweeted again to say it was just him thinking out loud, Sam would be a good fit for Wigan but there's nothing to suggest that's actually going to happen.

https://twitter.com/ShirtyMorris/status ... 68491?s=20

[Keith]

Wycombe are cheapskates without a pot to pee in.

Really? Lots of parachute payment money & a billionaire backer I thought?