#herewego

Re: #herewego

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:16 pm

I reckon it is pretty accurate to be fair given the access that some had prior to him getting the job. Robbo was called a step up within weeks of him getting the job, don't know how you can come to that conclusion if you didn't have some orm of distain for our most successful manager. Sentiment and ego's aside, Derek is available and the man for the job if we want to stay in this league.
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Re: #herewego

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:18 pm

fulwoodshrimp wrote:Give DA the job on short term brief of keeping us in League 1. Disappointing decision by Stephen Robinson if he leaves. I am unconvinced about his ability as a manager. He signed a number of players not good enough for League 1 and certainly has shown us no loyalty abandoning us at a critical time in our fight for survival in League 1. Signing a 3 year contract didn’t mean anything to him obviously.


But he was charming and smiled all the time. He loved to chat and talked the talk. Done us over big time.
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Re: #herewego

Postby Born again Bill » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:21 pm

In light of what Derek did after Wembley , and if he was coming back I would offer him a short term deal with a potential of an extension !
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Re: #herewego

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:25 pm

Born again Bill wrote:In light of what Derek did after Wembley , and if he was coming back I would offer him a short term deal with a potential of an extension !


Derek could have jumped when Bratfud first came in for him but he stayed and saw the job through. We all knew he was going but he showed more commitment to the club than SR has done, by a long way. Derek delivered where Robinson has jumped a struggling ship the first chance he got. Remember Hearts coming in for Derek?
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Re: #herewego

Postby Born again Bill » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:28 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:
Born again Bill wrote:In light of what Derek did after Wembley , and if he was coming back I would offer him a short term deal with a potential of an extension !


Derek could have jumped when Bratfud first came in for him but he stayed and saw the job through. We all knew he was going but he showed more commitment to the club than SR has done, by a long way. Derek delivered where Robinson has jumped a struggling ship the first chance he got. Remember Hearts coming in for Derek?


Derek said he was leaving because he had achieved what he set off to do . Would he have stopped if we hadn’t got promoted , NO the deal was already done !
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Re: #herewego

Postby Bara brith » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:34 pm

If Robbo does go, I’d like to see us test the water with Accrington, and try to get Shrimps Legend John Coleman , he might just fancy a new challenge at this stage of his career, he’s often said he has a lot of respect for the club, he would bring his assistant Jimmy Bell with him , to replace O’Carrol , who I would think would follow Robbo to St Mirren
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Re: #herewego

Postby redrobo » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:37 pm

To be perfectly honest IF he decides to jump ship then I for one am not that bothered.

He talks a good game but has failed to do anything about the midfield defensive problem and his signings to date have in the majority not been up to EFL1 standard.

It qiute noticeable that when he makes a substitution that the player coming off hardly gets any acknowledgement from him and I do wonder if the dressing room are 100% united at the moment.

All things considered (and I'm probably in the minority) a change isn't such a bad thing. He's shown no loyalty which if he goes will be what he is remembered for.

And so the search for a new manager could start ASAP and I'd certainly look at a short term appointment and give it to Baz or could it be our recently recruited Recruitment Manager.... :?: :?: :?:
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Re: #herewego

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:40 pm

Bara brith wrote:If Robbo does go, I’d like to see us test the water with Accrington, and try to get Shrimps Legend John Coleman , he might just fancy a new challenge at this stage of his career, he’s often said he has a lot of respect for the club, he would bring his assistant Jimmy Bell with him , to replace O’Carrol , who I would think would follow Robbo to St Mirren


Coley walks on water in Accrington, not a chance he would give that up. He tried it at Rochdale but failed and ended up back there via Northern Ireland. A romantic idea but no way would he leave there.

I bet we will get some top applications but hope we swerve the Graysons and Fergusons.
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Re: #herewego

Postby Bare bum » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:00 pm

On the plus side we will have had completely free managers for over two years.

John Coleman definitely worth a check.

Managers out of work at the moment -

Frankie McAvoy
Garry Monk
Gennaro Gattuso
Graham Westley
Grant McCann
Gus Poyet
Hayden Mullins
Ian Holloway
Jack Ross
James McPake
Lee Johnson
Martin Allen
Michel
Mick McCarthy
Neil Lennon
Neil Warnock
Nigel Adkins
Nigel Worthington
Nuno Espírito Santo
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Paul Dickov
Paul Lambert
Phil Brown
Sam Allardyce
Simon Grayson
Billy Davies
Chris Beech
Claude Puel
Darren Ferguson
Derek Adams
Sol Campbell
Stephen Glass
Steve Evans
Tommy Wright
Tony Pulis
Uwe Rösler
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Re: #herewego

Postby Bristol Shrimp » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:10 pm

Nigel Worthington :lol: :lol: where's Alan Curbishley :lol:
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Re: #herewego

Postby redrobo » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:16 pm

Just a few thoughts about who to take over.

At this stage in the season and the position we are in it's calling for someone who knows our current players as someone new wouldn't have a clue about them.

So for me I'd seriously give some thought to Baz with Martin Foyle our recruitment guy to work alongside Baz until the end of the season.

We are in a relegation battle and to bring in an unknown who knows sod all about the players or the club could be the final nail in our coffin.

Long term a couple of names in the above list could be worth looking at BUT only at the end of this season.

Lee Johnson....Nigel Adkins.....or even the current Halifax manager although Bratford fans reckon he's the one for them.
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Re: #herewego

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:17 pm

Personally I'd crawl over broken glass to get Coley as manager but I just can't see it happening unless our board made a really aggressive approach to Stanley and backed it with the money it would require. He's always had a thing for us since his great playing career here so never say never, but somehow I can't see it happening.

Derek Adams return?? Perhaps the stars are aligned that this will come to be. Never forget he's our most successful manager bar none. OK he jumped ship to the 'mahoosive' club which is perceived to be Bradford City, no doubt promised the earth and backed by 14,000 season ticket holders, you can't blame the guy for following the potential of the 'big' club. I feel our infrastructure is far more solid now than when he left and we are a better fit for someone like Derek rather than the toxicity of a club like Bradford when things aren't going their way. He'd certainly get more respect and time at our club.

Anyway we are all assuming it's a done deal of Robinson to St Mirren. IS IT?

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Re: #herewego

Postby Relapsed_Shrimp » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:23 pm

Ian Holloway worth a sit down with and an hour of anyone's time, he'd do a job but we have to go big here and spend some of the 'huge compo' and try to tempt Coleman from Accy. That would be a story and a half.
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Re: #herewego

Postby lancaster shrimp » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:24 pm

Bare bum wrote:On the plus side we will have had completely free managers for over two years.

John Coleman definitely worth a check.

Managers out of work at the moment -

Frankie McAvoy
Garry Monk
Gennaro Gattuso
Graham Westley
Grant McCann
Gus Poyet
Hayden Mullins
Ian Holloway
Jack Ross
James McPake
Lee Johnson
Martin Allen
Michel
Mick McCarthy
Neil Lennon
Neil Warnock
Nigel Adkins
Nigel Worthington
Nuno Espírito Santo
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Paul Dickov
Paul Lambert
Phil Brown
Sam Allardyce
Simon Grayson
Billy Davies
Chris Beech
Claude Puel
Darren Ferguson
Derek Adams
Sol Campbell
Stephen Glass
Steve Evans
Tommy Wright
Tony Pulis
Uwe Rösler


Some names on this list wouldn't come. The rest? A big no from me
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Re: #herewego

Postby lancaster shrimp » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:25 pm

Relapsed_Shrimp wrote:Ian Holloway worth a sit down with and an hour of anyone's time, he'd do a job but we have to go big here and spend some of the 'huge compo' and try to tempt Coleman from Accy. That would be a story and a half.


Holloway? No thanks, done nothing in his last few jobs and pretty much took Grimsby down, agree about Coleman though
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Re: #herewego

Postby fulwoodshrimp » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:34 pm

Not very professional of SR. His signings have brought us to the brink of relegation and he leaves rather than fight for us to retain League 1 status. Whatever way you look at it he has failed us. He will long be remembered for this.
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Re: #herewego

Postby Relapsed_Shrimp » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:35 pm

Waiting till the end of the year with an interim is not the answer. We need and tried and tested method to keep us in the EFL1 IMO. Baz could do a job if we were sitting mid table and happy but it's not fair on him or the club to chuck it at him. I also think we need some class to help keep the players we do have focused, Stockton for example ... A vision for the future and buy in to the plan ... Starting with staying up.
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Re: #herewego

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:35 pm

I think Holloway has made himself unemployable after his exploits at Grimsby. He has dodgy contracts with sell on percentages on players he signs. A character he may be but not for us.
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Re: #herewego

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:41 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:I think Holloway has made himself unemployable after his exploits at Grimsby. He has dodgy contracts with sell on percentages on players he signs. A character he may be but not for us.

Agreed. He was hero worshipped when he took over at Grimsby but in no time at all was universally hated by their fan base. Very much a busted flush!
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Re: #herewego

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:45 pm

Just seen a screen shot of a Morecambe Facebook page, not the good one but the one ran by the people who run this page and I am shocked, NOT! Fancy not wanting Derek back, blows my mind.
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Re: #herewego

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:49 pm

John McMahon caretaker manager with help from Drummy?
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Re: #herewego

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:51 pm

I was also wondering about the dressing room a couple of months ago around the time John Mc left but then we seemed to turn things around.

He deff sold us a dream about been able to develop players the only one that has made a big improvement is ayunga. His wide men especially he hasn't developed. Also he hasn't been able to coach the defence into been a more solid unit.

Lee Johnson might be worth a look.
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Re: #herewego

Postby marky No.1 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:01 pm

Enjoy yourself.... It is later than you think
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Re: #herewego

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:08 pm

"Ambitious, hungry and driven, has a history of developing players! Hmmm only in Scotland?
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Re: #herewego

Postby Andy D » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:22 pm

i'm actually Happy the more i get my head around this :)


Robbo’s Football was way to open, playing 4-3-3 was Barmy.


give me a well organised Derek Adams team who know how to play off the ball and counter attack anyday.
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