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[P/T Indie]

We've made around £1million in transfers and compensation where has that gone to pay off previous loans and hire off field staff or can some of it be used for a promotion push next year?

[Keith]

Would people give derek a large budget and throw everything at getting back to league 1?

Who mentioned throwing everything at Derek to get back to League 1? He needs a top end budget to compete at the top end of L2, not saying we need to sell the family jewels

Err... did you even read your own post?

You quoted "P/T Indie" saying "throw everything at getting back to league 1" then asked; "Who mentioned throwing everything at Derek to get back to League 1?"

It was literally in your own post.

[Keith]

This Summer, I really hope DA doesn't make Robbo's mistake in clearing out too many. We need to keep some continuity.

To be fair to Robinson, I don't think he got rid of many, I think they had already gone/had agreed deals elsewhere by the time he arrived.

[redrobo]

We've made around £1million in transfers and compensation where has that gone to pay off previous loans and hire off field staff or can some of it be used for a promotion push next year?

That's assuming that we get relegated which at the moment looks odds on BUT football can and does surprise us all at times.....

IF we get relegated then our BoD will provide the manager with a budget within our financial means and lets not forget that DA gave us a promotion party on a relatively small budget in comparison to others who finished way below us.

We'll never be blessed with a huge budget....just one within our means and more importantly manageable.

[KenH]

We've made around £1million in transfers and compensation where has that gone to pay off previous loans and hire off field staff or can some of it be used for a promotion push next year?

We were making losses of circa £500k per year, covered by shareholder loans/investments, so we won't have made a million profit, more like half a million, assuming the extra income is covering the extra expenses (more staff etc). Then there's the roof over the back of the home end to pay for. Lots of swings and roundabouts really, so there won't be £1 million in the bank account burning a hole in their pockets.

Sustainability has always been the stated aim, so I'd expect a modest increase in players budget so we're not scraping the barrel, but that probably just means we'd be a sustainable L2 club, i.e. having an average player budget for L2, but probably still one of the lowest if we manage to stay in L1.

IF there's a few hundred K floating around the club, then common sense would state that rather than splurging it at the start of next season, most of it is kept aside and drip fed over the next 2/3 seasons, i.e. some released next January if we need to beef up our squad, some left over to the following Summer etc. The thing is we don't know when we'll get the next "windfall" so crazy to spend it all now and then find ourselves back in the brown smelly stuff next year when we don't sell anyone.

It's a very fine balancing act really. We're already heavily committed due to the expansion over the last year (more admin/management staff etc) so if we end up back in L2 with attendances back to 2k per game, we'd probably not survive without redundancies etc. The club really needs to take it slow and steady and having a few quid down the back of the sofa will help so we don't have to sell the family jewels to pay the wages (i.e. the way we had to sell Barky or the way PMG had to hive off and mortgage the training grounds!).

[KenH]

We also have no idea of the 20/21 (promotion season) as those accounts haven't been submitted yet, so we don't know what kind of loss was suffered in the covid season.

[vvm]

Is there much difference in prize money between league one and two do we know? Of course bigger crowds and the opportunity to attract and then sell higher quality players help but I wonder how financially rewarding being in the higher division is.

[redrobo]

A lot will depend on where we are next season. IF we end up in EFL2 then gates will fall off but to what extent is unknown.

The season ticket offer has been a huge success and it is hoped that a similar scheme can be financed next season BUT again this will depend on where we are.

Will those who bought into the scheme leave us or will they remain I suspect some will remain but others may decide to go which would be a shame but understandable.

Maybe the younger new fan has really enjoyed this season getting together in the home end with their mates and creating a superb atmosphere. It would be brilliant if this seasons experience (forget the results) has created a whole new set of fans to replace old fools like myself.

The next months are critical . Let's hope that DA and Co can somehow create another miracle that would see us as an EFL1 club next season. Here's one old fool hoping for the best.....

[lancs]

What about Alex Kenyon who is at Ayr United until the end of this season only?

[BerlinWaller]

Alex was a great servant but let's not get silly. He couldn't get a game at bottom of the table Scunny and their fans say he looked in awful shape. Let's look forward, not back 3 years.

[BerlinWaller]

Would people give derek a large budget and throw everything at getting back to league 1?

Who mentioned throwing everything at Derek to get back to League 1? He needs a top end budget to compete at the top end of L2, not saying we need to sell the family jewels

Err... did you even read your own post?

You quoted "P/T Indie" saying "throw everything at getting back to league 1" then asked; "Who mentioned throwing everything at Derek to get back to League 1?"

It was literally in your own post.

Must have still been in shock after reading your joke about Child Abuse

[SEASIDECLARET]

Goodness. Alex Kenton, was a a wholehearted player who gave 100%, and was very loyal ( although I am not sure he ever got a better offer from anywhere else) and was a smashing guy but lest we forget, his best performance for Morecambe wasn’t as a defensive midfielder, but as a substitute goalkeeper!!

[Freez]

Bit harsh on Alex. He was superb before he got injured in the promotion season, I think DA told him to do his destroyer job and give it to Phillips to pass on and it worked.

[SEASIDECLARET]

Freeze, I think if you look at his appearances in the league last year, the figures do not appear to bear your view out. He appeared in 18 league games, with about an even split between starts and sub appearances, and of those starts only managed 90 minutes on about 5/6 occasions. As I said, wholehearted, committed, very loyal, and a tremendous club man and ambassador

[Keith]

I feel sorry for Fane, who I thought looked really good at doing the dirty work whenever he appeared, yet is out in the cold again now.

[Keith]

Must have still been in shock after reading your joke about Child Abuse

You see, that was your problem, it wasn't a joke about "child abuse", it was a joke about Morecambe not being able to beat anyone. And it was a joke. But you knew that really. Still, you notice how I listened to your 'feedback'?

[Freez]

I understand Alex didn’t play too many games last season, but I did say “superb before he got injured” as a caveat tbf.
I was incredibly lucky that I got see the games first hand, and Alex played some of his best football under DA until his unfortunate injury. He actually didn’t try to do stuff that wasn’t his forte and concentrated on winning the ball in the air and on the ground. For that reason alone, he was a better player.
But hey ho, we all see it differently.

[Bristol Shrimp]

Must have still been in shock after reading your joke about Child Abuse

You see, that was your problem, it wasn't a joke about "child abuse", it was a joke about Morecambe not being able to beat anyone. And it was a joke. But you knew that really. Still, you notice how I listened to your 'feedback'?

It may have been a joke but it was in incredibly poor taste. A friend of mine growing up lost his life at the hands of abusive parents. Not the kind of thing you'd expect to be reminded of on a football fans forum.

[BerlinWaller]

Totally agree BS, incredibly poor taste from somebody who should know better.

It shouldn't have taken me to report it for it to be removed, shameful.

[Keith]

It may have been a joke but it was in incredibly poor taste. A friend of mine growing up lost his life at the hands of abusive parents. Not the kind of thing you'd expect to be reminded of on a football fans forum.

Quite genuinely, if, every time you see a reference to child abuse, no matter how obliquely, it reminds you of an event that still causes you trauma, then I'd strongly advise you to get some therapy in order to come to terms with the event.

Totally agree BS, incredibly poor taste from somebody who should know better.

It shouldn't have taken me to report it for it to be removed, shameful.

"Should know better"? I expect you to jump all over my posts, it is what you do, but why should I know better? Because I'm able to differentiate a 'joke' from 'the real world'? Did it really cause you offence? Of course it didn't. And if it did, then you should try watching the news and getting offended by real things that are happening in the world. But as you are so easily upset by me, to be clear...

Child abuse... ...very, very bad.
Jokes about child abuse... ...are jokes.

[Keith]

PS: Or, Berlin Waller, if it did genuinely cause you distress due to your lived experiences as a child, then, as with Bristol Shrimp, I'd genuinely recommend seeking therapy/counselling in order to come to terms with the event, as a post on a message board should not trigger upset after this many years.

And that isn't sarcasm, I'm being entirely honest and basing this on a career as a psychiatric nurse.

[red shrimp]

Sorry but anyone who thinks Alex kenyon is good enough for league 1 wants their head checking. He’s a great servant but he’s no where near good enough, even for league 2.

[KenH]

Sorry but anyone who thinks Alex kenyon is good enough for league 1 wants their head checking. He’s a great servant but he’s no where near good enough, even for league 2.

I think he'd have been good to keep last Summer just for continuity even if he wasn't going to be a regular starter, maybe just for the year or even a six month contract to the Jan transfer window. The fact he's been to a few evening matches this season says his heart is still Morecambe. I can imagine he was a good character to have in the changing room and training pitches, not just as a natural leader but also someone who could help all the new players to start bonding together. I'm sure he wasn't a particularly high wage player. Our problem was too much changed at the same time, manager, league, most players, and the current squad simply didn't seem to gel together. I think Robbo once mentioned about some players wearing earphones during training/changing room which really doesn't sound good at all. Football is a team game after all.

[KenH]

Quite genuinely, if, every time you see a reference to child abuse, no matter how obliquely, it reminds you of an event that still causes you trauma, then I'd strongly advise you to get some therapy in order to come to terms with the event.

When you're in a hole, you really should stop digging.

[vvm]

Sorry but anyone who thinks Alex kenyon is good enough for league 1 wants their head checking. He’s a great servant but he’s no where near good enough, even for league 2.

I think he'd have been good to keep last Summer just for continuity even if he wasn't going to be a regular starter, maybe just for the year or even a six month contract to the Jan transfer window. The fact he's been to a few evening matches this season says his heart is still Morecambe. I can imagine he was a good character to have in the changing room and training pitches, not just as a natural leader but also someone who could help all the new players to start bonding together. I'm sure he wasn't a particularly high wage player. Our problem was too much changed at the same time, manager, league, most players, and the current squad simply didn't seem to gel together. I think Robbo once mentioned about some players wearing earphones during training/changing room which really doesn't sound good at all. Football is a team game after all.

I do agree with the idea that maybe it would have been a sensible idea to try and keep a few more of last season's squad for the sake of continuity. Last season's team seemed to get on as mates really well, I don't think that is as strong this season. Of the players released though I would struggle to make a strong argument that any of them should have been kept on though so probably wasn't realistic.