BHmfc wrote:I cannot believe certain supporters are being so negative about our manager, the same manager that got us promoted and the same manager that kept us in league one when the previous manager left less than six months after signing a three year contract. REALITY CHECK..... the club has no money, we are broke, we cannot go out and spend silly money on quality league one players, we cannot spend silly money paying league one salaries. Derek has a squad of players who are, in the majority, league two standard. Also, it's not his squad, he inherited a squad of players he did not want. If you want to watch multi million pound players playing like Brazil go and watch Arsenal (or Brazil). We are a small club playing in league one, there are bigger clubs than us both financially and support size playing non-league football. If we get relegated this season I will be disappointed but I will not lose any sleep over it. However, if we ever drop out of the football league I would be devastated because we would never get back in. I would extend Derek's contract now, not sack him, he has the ability and management skills to keep us in the league, give him time to build a squad of players he wants with the ability to play the way he wants them to play. Support Derek, support the players we have and support the club.
BHmfc wrote:I cannot believe certain supporters are being so negative about our manager...
Keith wrote:BHmfc wrote:I cannot believe certain supporters are being so negative about our manager...
I can't believe our manager is so negative about our football.
We started with six defenders against Sheffield Wednesday and never really looked like scoring. That worked so well, he started with six defenders against Milton Keynes. At 2-0 down last night, he took our leading goal-scorer off, and replaced him with a defensive midfielder, who has never scored a senior goal in his career. That's the negativity that winds me up.
Last night was a fantastic opportunity to reach the last 16 of the League Cup and the odds of drawing a big club were in our favour. We were playing one of the other clubs who are in the relegation zone with us, yet we made them look fantastic... ...for the second time this season.
How many games have we had zero shots on target this season? Even Tiverton managed one shot on target against Milton Keynes.
I agree with everything you say about size of club and lack of money. If we're going to go down, so be it. But for goodness sake, let's set up to TRY and win games, not simply, only lose by a small margin. Six defenders in a cup game against the team one place above us in the league?
Derek says Milton Keynes are a "really good" team. No, he set us up to make them look good.
Keith wrote:How many games have we had zero shots on target this season? Even Tiverton managed one shot on target against Milton Keynes.
Martin wrote:Keith wrote:How many games have we had zero shots on target this season? Even Tiverton managed one shot on target against Milton Keynes.
I think that says more about how good Tiverton must be than how poor we are because Milton Keynes were playing Taunton at the time
KenH wrote:Fane and O'Connor are only on the pitch because there's no one else!
Alan wrote:Imaginary scenarios...
If a team drew every match 0-0, then ignoring truncated Covid season 19-20 and going back to 05-06
season, apart from last season 21-22, that team would have been relegated all other years.
A goal difference of zero and 46 points.
If a team worked on a Robinson type system and every five matches won 2 by 1-0 and lost the other 3
by 5-0 they would never have been relegated.
A goal difference of minus 117 and 54 points with one match to play.
Currently..
..in the Championship Blackburn have won 12 and lost 8 of 20 matches. They are 2nd.
..in Lge 1 Peterborough have lost 6 and are 4th..we have lost only 8 but 22nd.
From my point of view I would like to see us giving it a go at 1 or 2 down even if we end up
losing by 3 or 4. I appreciate we are waiting for the return of a few key players, but hopefully
the mind set of the team will then be more positive.
On another thought...watching the FA Cup matches at weekend, I thought some of the 'bigger' clubs
seemed to give their non-league opposition more respect than they give us. Is that because they are wary of being on the wrong end of an upset or is it because they think we are not going to be much of a threat ?
Gone_Shrimping wrote:Alan wrote:If a team worked on a Robinson type system and every five matches won 2 by 1-0 and lost the other 3
by 5-0 they would never have been relegated.
Robinson's 5 match system looked good early on when we were winning a few but he only won 3 out of his last 23 EFL matches in charge.
Catte wrote:IMHO, I think you are best served by keeping Derek, for all he has done for your club.
As fans we all want to make Quantum leaps in development, we look at our rivals fighting at the top of whichever league and we are missing out. I at the moment am in the same boat but not a fan of our Manager so I am a bit twisted.
What you have to be able to do and easier from the outside looking in, is look at what you have achieved under DA, more than near enough any team in the league and definitely on your own in achievement with the budget. Every club that achieves in a short period do so by chucking money at it.
I still think you will be ok, there is a window on the horizon and you are not a million miles away. You have to be pragmatic and winning ugly is still winning and I think you are close to getting the balance right.
Keith wrote:Martin wrote:Keith wrote:How many games have we had zero shots on target this season? Even Tiverton managed one shot on target against Milton Keynes.
I think that says more about how good Tiverton must be than how poor we are because Milton Keynes were playing Taunton at the time
Good point!KenH wrote:Fane and O'Connor are only on the pitch because there's no one else!
I'm sorry, but I can't accept that at 2-0 down in a cup game, Fane offered a better chance of getting a goal, than Obika or Gnahoua. Fane was never going to get, or create a goal. Even if the aim was to save Phillips, then that simply shows that Derek had thrown in the towel with half an hour left.
Six defenders?
black morse wrote:So far as the Fane substitution is concerned by then we were 2 down and DA must have considered the game was beyond our grasp. I'm sure that most of us felt the same? He couldn't afford to lose Phillips to injury as he needs at least one striker for the league battles ahead. Not a negative move just a realistic one.
vvm wrote:None of our attacking players were creating any kind of threat. Maybe he brought Fane on because he felt the reason we couldn't get the ball up the pitch was because of an issue in the midfield? Not that it particularly worked but if he'd brought Obika or Arthur on I doubt either would have even touched the ball.
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