but Gedball is more entertaining! Apparently. We really got entertained yesterday, then thoroughly enjoyed the saddest lap of honour I've seen. The players and especially the manager couldn't bare to look at us fans as they trudged round.Redalert1970 wrote:DEREK`S LEAGUE RECORD
Played 16
Won 8
Drawn 3
Lost 5
For 25
Against 20
Points 27 / 48
Win percentage 50 %
GED`S LEAGUE RECORD
Played 29
Won 9
Drawn 6
Lost 14
For 39
Against 58
Points 33 / 87
Win percentage 29 %
Redalert1970 wrote:DEREK`S LEAGUE RECORD
Played 16
Won 8
Drawn 3
Lost 5
For 25
Against 20
Points 27 / 48
Win percentage 50 %
GED`S LEAGUE RECORD
Played 29
Won 9
Drawn 6
Lost 14
For 39
Against 58
Points 33 / 87
Win percentage 29 %
vvm wrote:So put it simply we’d be looking forward to the playoffs with a full season of Derek and just scraping survival with Ged. Appreciate he had a tough job on his hands but I’m really worried for next season.
black morse wrote:vvm wrote:So put it simply we’d be looking forward to the playoffs with a full season of Derek and just scraping survival with Ged. Appreciate he had a tough job on his hands but I’m really worried for next season.
The main thing that sways this comparison is that DA had an excellent holding midfielder in King and an excellent striker in Mellon plus having JJ and Moore fully fit. The likes of Garner and Larsson and even Adams lately do not compare. I know that the early loanees might not have returned to their clubs if DA has still been in charge but that is not Ged's fault.
BerlinWaller wrote:What if it was Ged's call to send the players on loan back and recruit his own players to replace them? I don't know if that is the case but he wasn't overly keen on playing them when he got the job. Who remembers the line up for the Swansea game?
Keith wrote:BerlinWaller wrote:What if it was Ged's call to send the players on loan back and recruit his own players to replace them? I don't know if that is the case but he wasn't overly keen on playing them when he got the job. Who remembers the line up for the Swansea game?
You really are clutching at straws now, in your campaign against Ged! He didn't play the players who he knew were going, because he needed to quickly try and build a team for the rest of the season! I can see it now, Ged comes in and the first thing he does is say, "right then Mr Mellon, I know you are our leading goalscorer, but I don't rate you, so I'm going to terminate your loan and send you back to Burnley"
King *might* have stayed if Derek had.
Derek wanted Mellon at Ross County, but Burnley said 'no' to him, so I think we can safely say Mellon was going, no matter what.
Shrewsbury recalled Bloxham to play for them in League One
Connolly recalled and playing in League One.
Mayor was going to be sold regardless.
The parent club have to give notice that they are recalling a player. From memory, that is two weeks notice, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Either way, by the time we played Swansea, Ged would know that those players were not going to be his for the rest of the season.
Add JJ, Love & Moore as long term injuries, and that meant a complete rebuild in one month, mid-season.
black morse wrote:vvm wrote:So put it simply we’d be looking forward to the playoffs with a full season of Derek and just scraping survival with Ged. Appreciate he had a tough job on his hands but I’m really worried for next season.
The main thing that sways this comparison is that DA had an excellent holding midfielder in King and an excellent striker in Mellon plus having JJ and Moore fully fit. The likes of Garner and Larsson and even Adams lately do not compare. I know that the early loanees might not have returned to their clubs if DA has still been in charge but that is not Ged's fault.
vvm wrote:but I worry that might cost us this summer if we need to recruit an entirely new team yet again.
KenH wrote:vvm wrote:but I worry that might cost us this summer if we need to recruit an entirely new team yet again.
Speaking to someone very close to the club, it looks like a complete rebuild is going to be needed.
There have apparently been a couple of almighty foul ups with not understanding player contracts, whereby we've lost the right to trigger an extension clause, meaning a couple of the most influential players that we could have kept by triggering extensions are now off. These are both apparently scenarios where we needed to have started/played them for a specific number of games over a specific time period, but which because the manager/assistant manager didn't read the contracts properly, are now free to go, without any way of us holding onto them or selling them. In one case, the most potentially valuable player of the two, we are one game short (not clear whether he needed to start or just needed to play), of triggering the extension, where two more starts/plays are needed but we only have one game left! Doh!!
Another has been refusing to start so as not to allow his extension to be triggered as he doesn't want to stay, whatever is offered. That explains why he has been a regular off the bench when logic would have said for him to start. (Sounds like another Cole situation where he'd just not put the effort in if he was started against his wishes!).
Two more of our better players are out of contract and have made it clear they're off, not even waiting around to see what (or if) our contract offer will be.
There is a glimmer of hope with two more of the better ones, both indicating they're wanting to stay, one in particular we desperately need to stay, and things are looking good for that one as he's very motivated to stay, the other, again, someone we desperately need to stay, is a "probably".
So, out of our squad, we have, maybe 3 or 4 (counting Brown) who are likely to still be here for next season. Few, if any, of the others are staying apparently, and that's regardless of what happens with ownership, budget, etc. It's going to be another hard few months for a manager to build up an entirely new squad yet again.
Gone_Shrimping wrote:If a player is under 24 and we offer an improved contract does that mean we receive compensation if they sign for another club and are we able to offer improved contracts when under an embargo if it is still in place ?
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