New signings?

Re: New signings?

Postby RedRedWine » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:23 pm

Own goal deflection!

My original post merely highlights the strange/baseless/crackpot opinion that Ged left because he could not handle the pressure of managing Morecambe FC; as Keith correctly highlights, the manager operated against the backdrop of ongoing uncertainty and late payment of wages (fact!)… and for a large portion of his tenure he did this with limited backroom resources due to illness and alleged betting breaches. Added to this, Brannan had to rebuild a large portion of his squad (not unheard of for a club that has grown increasingly dependant on the loan market) due to parent clubs reneging on season long loan deals (ironically with the then departing Derek Adams proving as the chief beneficiary of such transactions). The consensus at the time on here and elsewhere was that Ged had begun to implement his own style of play, a more expansive game that was entertaining to watch and involved playing from the back taking some risks to draw your opponent out of shape and break quickly; something the majority seemed to be appeased by – yet I now read that this was now seemingly accompanied by ‘keystone cop’ defending and that the exciting wins that it generated were ‘flukey’. Oh my. Give the guy his dues; he deserves more respect than a few people have shown on here given the situation he navigated us through on the pitch.

As others have highlighted, it is clear in my post that I am referencing the fact that once again the playing budget has been agreed late in the day again (although up until very recently, this was actually the least of our worries!), and for the third straight season we are largely recruiting a squad from scratch and on a timeline far behind our competitors. In addition to this we have been unable to offer contracts to players that we wanted to keep, and for some added spice this season, we are in a transfer embargo. Although Rod said on BBC Radio Lancs that this does not directly impact playing recruitment per se… the EFL currently have to agree to contract offers where this would not ordinarily apply, and more pertinently if two teams are in for you with the same contract offer…. who in their right mind is accepting one from a club that has recently been slapped with a points deduction essentially for late payment of wages and one that has debts outstanding to HMRC? Hardly a great endorsement.

Moving on.... I have utmost respect for the board, who have their heart in the right place – but you can argue that in some instances they have been less than transparent e.g. fans attended the AGM which painted a picture drastically different to the one that unravelled a few weeks later with the club handed a points deduction and placed under a transfer embargo; both of which were surely known about at said meeting but not disclosed (we still have no idea when the embargo will be lifted, or precisely why this unpaid VAT situation has arisen).

Whilst the owner is largely at fault for the absolutely shambolic mismanagement of the club – some of Mr Whittinghams counter claims in that the clubs internal financial projections were wildly optimistic, and resulted in Bond Group injecting more cash than was agreed/budgeted, have so far gone unchallenged; he clearly points a finger of mis-management in the boards direction. Obviously, few can believe a word that charlatans mouth (lets not forget, he was banned from being a company director for 12 months after his catastrophic ownership of Worcester Warriors RUFC), but the board would be wise to clarify this assertion if it is unture.
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Re: New signings?

Postby BHmfc » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:28 pm

In defence of GB, I thought he did a great job in difficult circumstances and I certainly don't blame him for leaving, going to a new employer who are financially more secure and pay wages on time, after all, we all have bills to pay and food to buy. Regarding the late payment of wages, it is my understanding that if a company/business wages date falls on a weekend, then the wages should be paid on the Friday, not on the Monday. Therefore Morecambe did pay the wages late for that particular month.
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Re: New signings?

Postby black morse » Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:05 pm

RedRedWine wrote:Own goal deflection!

My original post merely highlights the strange/baseless/crackpot opinion that Ged left because he could not handle the pressure of managing Morecambe FC; as Keith correctly highlights, the manager operated against the backdrop of ongoing uncertainty and late payment of wages (fact!)… and for a large portion of his tenure he did this with limited backroom resources due to illness and alleged betting breaches. Added to this, Brannan had to rebuild a large portion of his squad (not unheard of for a club that has grown increasingly dependant on the loan market) due to parent clubs reneging on season long loan deals (ironically with the then departing Derek Adams proving as the chief beneficiary of such transactions). The consensus at the time on here and elsewhere was that Ged had begun to implement his own style of play, a more expansive game that was entertaining to watch and involved playing from the back taking some risks to draw your opponent out of shape and break quickly; something the majority seemed to be appeased by – yet I now read that this was now seemingly accompanied by ‘keystone cop’ defending and that the exciting wins that it generated were ‘flukey’. Oh my. Give the guy his dues; he deserves more respect than a few people have shown on here given the situation he navigated us through on the pitch.

As others have highlighted, it is clear in my post that I am referencing the fact that once again the playing budget has been agreed late in the day again (although up until very recently, this was actually the least of our worries!), and for the third straight season we are largely recruiting a squad from scratch and on a timeline far behind our competitors. In addition to this we have been unable to offer contracts to players that we wanted to keep, and for some added spice this season, we are in a transfer embargo. Although Rod said on BBC Radio Lancs that this does not directly impact playing recruitment per se… the EFL currently have to agree to contract offers where this would not ordinarily apply, and more pertinently if two teams are in for you with the same contract offer…. who in their right mind is accepting one from a club that has recently been slapped with a points deduction essentially for late payment of wages and one that has debts outstanding to HMRC? Hardly a great endorsement.

Moving on.... I have utmost respect for the board, who have their heart in the right place – but you can argue that in some instances they have been less than transparent e.g. fans attended the AGM which painted a picture drastically different to the one that unravelled a few weeks later with the club handed a points deduction and placed under a transfer embargo; both of which were surely known about at said meeting but not disclosed (we still have no idea when the embargo will be lifted, or precisely why this unpaid VAT situation has arisen).

Whilst the owner is largely at fault for the absolutely shambolic mismanagement of the club – some of Mr Whittinghams counter claims in that the clubs internal financial projections were wildly optimistic, and resulted in Bond Group injecting more cash than was agreed/budgeted, have so far gone unchallenged; he clearly points a finger of mis-management in the boards direction. Obviously, few can believe a word that charlatans mouth (lets not forget, he was banned from being a company director for 12 months after his catastrophic ownership of Worcester Warriors RUFC), but the board would be wise to clarify this assertion if it is unture.


Spot on post in every respect RRW. How anyone can say Ged left because he couldn't handle the pressure defies the logic that he did a more than fair job in extreme circumstances.
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Re: New signings?

Postby Billy bodger » Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:24 pm

King Derek III is not back other than on a rolling monthly contract, he can abdicate anytime he wants or the crown can be past on (which doesn’t happen at Morecambe, basically), so it’s just up to Derek III to stay or not. Not a bad Kingdom to rule flirting in and out!!
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Re: New signings?

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Rumours that we are signing former Tranmere Rovers central midfielder Paul Lewis.
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Re: New signings?

Postby Redalert1970 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:32 am

Lewis only made 14 apps for Tranmere last season

Don't know if this was injuries or just not good enough
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Re: New signings?

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:45 am

Redalert1970 wrote:Lewis only made 14 apps for Tranmere last season

Don't know if this was injuries or just not good enough


Our King will have seen something in him that can benefit us if indeed he is to be a Shrimp.

I remember the Macclesfield fans used to sing his praises and he is 29 so a good experienced player.

The club are probably holding back announcing some of the signings until July 1st so that their previous clubs have to pay them their June Salaries.
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Re: New signings?

Postby redrobo » Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:57 am

For me only better to go for someone with experience of EFL football due to our current lack of midfield experience than a loanee only used to playing U21 football.

I remember a very talented midfield loanee a few seasons ago who was technically very good but struggled in the combative nature of the EFL.

Nothing against loanees in fact they have been in the main excellent but with such a probable very small squad this season I personally feel that this lad (assuming he comes) would be an asset.

Only my opinion....others will disagree.....but what's new.... :D

Had a chat with a club official yesterday who said that all the new signings will be announced after their current contract ends at the end of this month. Players are paid until the end of June in general so their current clubs have to honour their current contract before officially releasing them. Basically it means we do not have to pay any new signings earmarked for our club until their current contract expires. In our current financial situation a logical decision by our BoDs.
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Re: New signings?

Postby black morse » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:38 am

redrobo wrote:For me only better to go for someone with experience of EFL football due to our current lack of midfield experience than a loanee only used to playing U21 football.

I remember a very talented midfield loanee a few seasons ago who was technically very good but struggled in the combative nature of the EFL.

Nothing against loanees in fact they have been in the main excellent but with such a probable very small squad this season I personally feel that this lad (assuming he comes) would be an asset.

Only my opinion....others will disagree.....but what's new.... :D

Had a chat with a club official yesterday who said that all the new signings will be announced after their current contract ends at the end of this month. Players are paid until the end of June in general so their current clubs have to honour their current contract before officially releasing them. Basically it means we do not have to pay any new signings earmarked for our club until their current contract expires. In our current financial situation a logical decision by our BoDs.


A logical decision no matter what the financial situation is.
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Re: New signings?

Postby jona77 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:52 pm

It always make me smile when people call Derek “ The King “! I’d expect that terminology from children not adults! Why not go the whole hog and call him “The Messiah”!
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Re: New signings?

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:09 pm

jona77 wrote:It always make me smile when people call Derek “ The King “! I’d expect that terminology from children not adults! Why not go the whole hog and call him “The Messiah”!



(A) The King is a nickname used for DA by quite a few people at various clubs , Plymouth etc.

(B) And Glenn Hoddle is "The Messiah" so that name is taken :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: New signings?

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:36 pm

He's not the messiah as he's been a very naughty boy (twice)! ;)
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Re: New signings?

Postby BerlinWaller » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:21 pm

8 medicals have been booked by the club
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Re: New signings?

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:47 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:8 medicals have been booked by the club

How many psychiatrists? :)
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Re: New signings?

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:30 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:8 medicals have been booked by the club



That doesn't sound like existing players accepting contract extensions then. Would an existing squad player need another medical ?
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Re: New signings?

Postby Wild Bill » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:11 am

Sounds promising if true. Maybe a busy week of announcements from 1st of july
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Re: New signings?

Postby Little Shrimp » Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:55 am

Sounds like there is a bit of movement, be interesting to see how things pan-out come July 1st. Sounds like it could be quite a busy day!

Looks like the Paul Lewis rumour has legs. Sounds like he's a bit limited but works hard and contributes defensively, is a decent physical presence and has a knack for a late run into the box from midfield. Think that ticks boxes for him to be a handy squad player under Derek, as long as we've got a bit of quality around him. Good that we already have some in Edwards - great dribbler, very direct, can pull a bit of magic out and grafts defensively, think that should hopefully work well for Derek.
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Re: New signings?

Postby redrobo » Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:39 am

A further goalkeeper under consideration....

https://the72.co.uk/2024/06/24/morecamb ... town-exit/

Also noticed that forward Ryan Bowman has been released by the Shrews as well. Would be a good signing as a target centre forward who has a good record wherever he has played. Could be the ideal partner for the young academy lad who has signed pro forms.

Am sure we once had him on trial or at least expressed interest in him some seasons ago.
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Re: New signings?

Postby nobbyshrimp » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:42 am

Might be some substance to this one as DA signed him for Plymouth so they already know each other
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