Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thread

Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Keith » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:47 pm

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Simultaneously, both top, and bottom of the League! 8-)
“Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband: ".

David Cameron. May 4th 2015.
So how did that work out then?
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Keith » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:49 pm

621 attending.

Those of us oldies will remember when 621 was a season's high point!
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Redalert1970 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:52 pm

We are through ... We can give all our kids a game against Carlisle now

Maybe reduce the prices for the last group game

£5 adults
£1 kids
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:54 pm

Keith wrote:621 attending.

Those of us oldies will remember when 621 was a season's high point!


Yes usually for the reserves v Man Utd A team in the Lancashire League. We’ve come a long way since then!
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Redalert1970 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:57 pm

Good result in the end just a shame about possible injuries to Slew and Williams
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:58 pm

Don’t know if Birmingham are in the Northern half of the draw but home or away against them would put a few quid in the coffers.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby marky No.1 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:05 pm

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:Don’t know if Birmingham are in the Northern half of the draw but home or away against them would put a few quid in the coffers.



Birmingham are in the Southern section, will have to wait till the semi final
Enjoy yourself.... It is later than you think
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Redalert1970 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:08 pm

Wrexham at home would also be good
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Hodgie1978 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:33 pm

If it's like last years trophy rules we are guaranteed top because we beat Wigan and Forest.
Guaranteed a home tie against a team that finishes 2nd
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Wild Bill » Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:50 pm

Great confidence boost for the lads. Can we not give Barrow a head start though
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Re: Morecambe 3 [Tollitt, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thread

Postby John L » Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:32 pm

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:It’s all going off now! Code Green just announced over the tannoy. Long time since we had one of them!


The two stewards in the home end had to look across to see what their colleagues in the main stand were doing before they sheepishly stood up... and couldn't wait for the "stand down" to be able to sit down again! :lol:
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Re: Morecambe 3 [Tollitt, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thread

Postby John L » Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:34 pm

AndyReifman wrote:These Forest youngsters must be truly terrible.

If only we could score this easily in the league.


All they could do was run fast and that was pretty much it. Our quality shone through in the end, thankfully!
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby John L » Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:35 pm

Keith wrote:621 attending.

Those of us oldies will remember when 621 was a season's high point!


A very creditable 110 from Nottingham too! Probably a few interested in a new ground to tick off.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Billy bodger » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:19 am

I enjoyed the game, well worth the tenner. The Notts Forest youngsters in the first 40 mins played very well, they were organised, pressed well, moved the ball out wide, attacked with speed. With better finishing and they could have had a 3-0 lead. A bit like Liverpool U21s the other year, Midfield busting a gut to get 5 men in the box for a cross, they stretched us time and again. We could learn something there time and again we did not have numbers in the box till late on in the game.
When Slew had to go off and Totunda came on at full back and Lewis moved further forward we got a bit of good procession and got to half time 1-1. I like that partnership on the left more and more.

Second half we were better, they tired and we penned them in their own half getting some good goals. We let in a sloppy goal but came back very well to comfortably win the game.

Interesting to here DA say the two wins have brought the Club £20,000, so go for the win against Carlisle, bring in another £10,000 and hopefully the Club gives all that money to Derek to go towards the January Transfer Window.
Having that small squad and such a big injury list was part of what happened at Accrington so adding 1 or 2 in January will help the effort in staying in this League in the run in to the end of the season.

Unfortunately Man Utd U21s winning their group, but hopefully we get them here, not because I like Utd, but I think the gate will be a high one.
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Re: Morecambe 3 [Tollitt, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thread

Postby redrobo » Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:37 am

John L wrote:
AndyReifman wrote:These Forest youngsters must be truly terrible.

If only we could score this easily in the league.


All they could do was run fast and that was pretty much it. Our quality shone through in the end, thankfully!


Let's not underestimate the value of this victory to our club and to the players confidence.

OK Notts Forest of under 21's ran out of steam in the second half but it was our 3rd goal on the night that knocked their confidence and it was significant how their experienced manager Warren Joyce became very quiet of the touchline realizing that his charges had run a good game but that experience of out team had won the day.

For the first 30 minutes Forset ran at us with speed and no shortage of skill and it was fitting that they took the lead. Thankfully we equalized near to half time only ofr Forest to regain the lead on the resumption of the second 45.

Our experience began to take hold of the game and it was excellent to see Charlie Brown score an equalizer after yet another excellent cross from former Liverpool player Lewis.

By now Froest were showing early stages of tiredness and despite still posing a threat with some forward runs at speed it was it was Hope who gve us the hope ;) that that long overdue home win was on the cards.

Tollit crowned a fine game with the 4th and his second to see us overcome a very active and creative young Forest side who has shown their capabilities that argue well for their futures.

For our lads it was a confidence boosting performance but take nothing away from Forest we had to work hard for this victory and save ourselves from a potential banana skin of a result' I remember all too well about previous games against under 21 teams in this cup were we have not played to anything like our potential.

Good to see Charlie brown get some extended game time and his congratulation pat on the back and word of encouragement from DA on his late substitution was good to witness. Maybe with Slew out for some time with an injury there will be a further opportunity for Charlie to show DA what he can do. After all it was DA who brought him to our club in the first place but hasn't had the chance so far to show him what he can do,

Here's hoping .....

An enjoyable game and well worth the admission fee.... :) :) :)
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Billy bodger » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:15 pm

I agree seeing Charlie get a chance to start a game was good, I think he did OK especially in the second half. He took his goal well and linked up a lot better with midfield.
I think the fans gave him a good reception because they feel he has had a little bit of a bad deal under DW. When he played under Ged after DW left he scored a few goals and did reasonably OK for us the second half of the season.
With the injuries continuing he might get a chance to play a few back to back games? It could be another two out :cry: :cry:
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby BerlinWaller » Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:23 pm

I think Derek has been pretty honest explaining his stance on Charlie Brown. He said that Charlie needs to do more to get a place in the side and that it is up to him. I take that as meaning that his performances in training aren't up to the standard Derek expects and that Charlie has to work harder. I guess there is a reason why you going from being the next big thing at Chelsea to scratching about in L2. I hope it clicks for him because there is a good player there but hard work beats talent every time!
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby KenH » Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:27 pm

BerlinWaller wrote: I hope it clicks for him because there is a good player there but hard work beats talent every time!


Exactly. Derek knows he can't get "talent" due to the budget, so he goes for hard workers instead. And those who'll listen to what he wants them to do, and willing/able to go out and do it. When we're deep in the brown smelly stuff like we are now, Derek wants players who will play with stealth rather than having prima-donna's who only want to play how they want to play!
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Billy bodger » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:04 pm

I agree with both Berlin Waller and KenH in that you have to work hard in both training and on the pitch, I thought Charlie put in a shift that in the second half.
I do wonder though about looking at it in the opposite way, that players putting in shifts and looking good in training and not doing it on the pitch in the game. How long do you give them in the team?
I think a balance of the two and your man management skills have to be used when your the manager and when the player gets their chance you has to take it.
If indeed Charlie trains poorly, as a fan you have to ask why. It’s a mentality thing as a player as well and perhaps he hasn’t got that, ‘I will prove you wrong in his personality.’
Perhaps Charlie should look at Harrack and how he had to wait for a start and if he hadn’t got him self suspended I think he would have kept his place against Accrington. He’s away on international duty now so others get their chance.
Dackers should be back Saturday and maybe Charlie will get a start on the right side of midfield or even play off Dackers. It’s up to DW and as for Charlie he needs to knuckle down and prove things differently.
Oh and when he gets on the pitch score a goal, that always helps.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby BerlinWaller » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:30 pm

Derek has put the ball in Charlie Browns court and hopefully it clicks for him. Charlie is sat on a nice 2 yr contract so knows that unless a bid comes in or he gets his contract paid up, he has a wage coming in. Hopefully he is motivated by more than that.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Billy bodger » Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:55 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:Derek has put the ball in Charlie Browns court and hopefully it clicks for him. Charlie is sat on a nice 2 yr contract so knows that unless a bid comes in or he gets his contract paid up, he has a wage coming in. Hopefully he is motivated by more than that.


I have to agree, why a footballer doesn’t want to play football, Charlie needs to get himself in the team it’s up to him, whatever it takes and play football.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby nobbyshrimp » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:09 pm

Billy bodger wrote:I agree with both Berlin Waller and KenH in that you have to work hard in both training and on the pitch, I thought Charlie put in a shift that in the second half.
I do wonder though about looking at it in the opposite way, that players putting in shifts and looking good in training and not doing it on the pitch in the game. How long do you give them in the team?
I think a balance of the two and your man management skills have to be used when your the manager and when the player gets their chance you has to take it.
If indeed Charlie trains poorly, as a fan you have to ask why. It’s a mentality thing as a player as well and perhaps he hasn’t got that, ‘I will prove you wrong in his personality.’
Perhaps Charlie should look at Harrack and how he had to wait for a start and if he hadn’t got him self suspended I think he would have kept his place against Accrington. He’s away on international duty now so others get their chance.
Dackers should be back Saturday and maybe Charlie will get a start on the right side of midfield or even play off Dackers. It’s up to DW and as for Charlie he needs to knuckle down and prove things differently.
Oh and when he gets on the pitch score a goal, that always helps.

Ahhh, that explains it, frustration over, I thought it was up to Derek Adams who plays or doesn’t but didn’t realise for 1 second it was up to DW. I bet Dereks not happy about that :lol:
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby Billy bodger » Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:03 pm

Yeh your right nobbyshrimp, Derek not happy at all,(apologies). What can I say, I hope you had a good laugh. Of course it should have been DA. Anyway I’ll stop digging my embarrassment is filling the hole.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby John L » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:01 pm

Billy bodger wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:Derek has put the ball in Charlie Browns court and hopefully it clicks for him. Charlie is sat on a nice 2 yr contract so knows that unless a bid comes in or he gets his contract paid up, he has a wage coming in. Hopefully he is motivated by more than that.


I have to agree, why a footballer doesn’t want to play football, Charlie needs to get himself in the team it’s up to him, whatever it takes and play football.


I remember Derek saying in one of his interviews earlier this season that Charlie had a back injury, so that doesn't sound like there was any option other than not playing. Great to see him back, though, and get on the score sheet so soon, plus his delight was clear to see after he scored and at the end of the match.
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Re: Morecambe 4 [Tollitt x2, Brown, Hope] Forest 2 LIVE thre

Postby BerlinWaller » Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:25 am

Derek was asked about Charlie in his last BBC Lancs interview. Have a listen to that as he explains why Charlie isn't in the side.

Agree that it was pleasing to see him score the other night.
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