Morecambe 1 [Stott] MK Dons 3 LIVE thread

[BHmfc]

The best team over 90 minutes won the game but we did gift them two goals. Moore should have stayed on his line instead of rushing forward and making contact with their player, so definite penalty and Tollitt gave the ball away too easily in a dangerous position allowing them to score their third. Saying that we kept going and every player gave 100% but we do lack quality, hardly surprising for a team/squad of players thrown together at no cost (we all know where the blame lies for that). Win, lose or draw I will keep supporting the team because at the end of the day there are 23 clubs in league two who are financially more secure than we are because of our ownership situation. I just wish all our supporters could take on board the dire situation our club is in and until we get an owner prepared to really support the club, we, the supporters, might not have a club to support next season.

[BerlinWaller]

The best team over 90 minutes won the game but we did gift them two goals. Moore should have stayed on his line instead of rushing forward and making contact with their player, so definite penalty and Tollitt gave the ball away too easily in a dangerous position allowing them to score their third. Saying that we kept going and every player gave 100% but we do lack quality, hardly surprising for a team/squad of players thrown together at no cost (we all know where the blame lies for that). Win, lose or draw I will keep supporting the team because at the end of the day there are 23 clubs in league two who are financially more secure than we are because of our ownership situation. I just wish all our supporters could take on board the dire situation our club is in and until we get an owner prepared to really support the club, we, the supporters, might not have a club to support next season.

100% agree

[Billy bodger]

What we all have to remember is we need to finish 22nd or above. With what I have seen we can compete if we turn up. It is nigh on impossible to do that for 46 games on the trot, we will have off days, think Accrington, Crew and yesterday if you compare them to the games against, Notts County, Gillingham, Doncaster.
From that it is apparent that we seem to lack the ability to win games in the numbers required and that is worrying to say the least. I have said I would like to see us on 20+ points by the New Year and at the moment that is just not a realistic possibility.
Get our injured players back and it will help but it is becoming a big ask.

[BerlinWaller]

Derek mentioned that it was taking a while to get the injured players back and it makes you wonder how big a loss Simon Farnworth was and whether his replacement is of the same standard.

[lancaster shrimp]

I'm not sure what some fans expected this season. Did anyone else expect anything less than a relegation battle given our current situation? This is as bad as it's ever been in my time supporting the club. I can only think of 3/4 players who would get in other League 2 sides. Stott. Adam Lewis and Gwion. (not counting Williams and Jones as they're not our players.

[marky No.1]

This is as bad as it's ever been in my time supporting the club.

Yes even when we were scraping the barrel under Jim, I can't recall being rock bottom or even in the drop zone for any length of time.
It was at the time a victory to end up 3rd from bottom and that at the moment will seem like a victory come April... but we live in hope with a lower case 'h'

[BerlinWaller]

Give over, we had years of tripe before Derek performed the miracle that seems to have warped peoples memories.

[marky No.1]

Give over, we had years of tripe before Derek performed the miracle that seems to have warped peoples memories.

Yes I don't disagree with that, but I still don't remember us being adrift by 3 points, having played a game more and having a worse goal difference all at the same time

[Billy bodger]

At the moment 3 wins in the next 5 will only lift us up a little, if at all, if you factor in what other teams will do, (think Accrington winning two in a row), it becomes harder with each match you don’t win. So to hit the 20+ points I feel we need by Christmas we have to find 5 wins in the next 11 games.
I believe it is achievable, but then that’s not really a fantastic sum of points to be on at Christmas. It will however go a long way in reaching the historical need to reach 40-44 to stay in the league.
The key to that is winning the lower placed teams not far ahead of us and nicking the occasional point/points off the higher placed teams.
We have to win the majority of the following games Carlisle, Swindon, Bromley, Harrogate, Tranmere, Grimsby and Colchester before Christmas. If we can nick points off Wimbledon, Port Vale, Chesterfield and Cheltenham all well and good.
The consensus in our group of supporters is it’s going to be a long season.

[lancaster shrimp]

Give over, we had years of tripe before Derek performed the miracle that seems to have warped peoples memories.

I'm with you on this BW 100 percent. We just were never at the foot of the table. Signing players who the majority barring 2 or 3 wouldn't get into any other League 2 side and the ownership issue been this bad.

[BerlinWaller]

Give over, we had years of tripe before Derek performed the miracle that seems to have warped peoples memories.

I'm with you on this BW 100 percent. We just were never at the foot of the table. Signing players who the majority barring 2 or 3 wouldn't get into any other League 2 side and the ownership issue been this bad.

And Jim used to get a lot of support based on his budget yet Derek gets loads of stick. See where we are on the last game of the season.

[lancaster shrimp]

Give over, we had years of tripe before Derek performed the miracle that seems to have warped peoples memories.

I'm with you on this BW 100 percent. We just were never at the foot of the table. Signing players who the majority barring 2 or 3 wouldn't get into any other League 2 side and the ownership issue been this bad.

And Jim used to get a lot of support based on his budget yet Derek gets loads of stick. See where we are on the last game of the season.

Jim should have gone 3/4 years earlier than what he did and I was vocal about all his wrong doings and the constant crap. In my opinion Derek is the best man for the job and with him, we have a fighting chance of staying up. As you say. See where we are come May

[Keith]

Give over, we had years of tripe before Derek performed the miracle that seems to have warped peoples memories.

I'm with you on this BW 100 percent. We just were never at the foot of the table. Signing players who the majority barring 2 or 3 wouldn't get into any other League 2 side and the ownership issue been this bad.

And Jim used to get a lot of support based on his budget yet Derek gets loads of stick. See where we are on the last game of the season.

For goodness sake! Derek is getting almost universal support!!! Has anyone suggested that Derek should be sacked? He has far more support than you and your club offered Jim! I don't recall you ever saying we should support Jim and see where things are at the end of the season?

Derek is doing wonders, and keeping us up this season will AGAIN be a fantastic achievement.

The one thing that both Jim did and Derek is still managing to do, is create a squad on a shoe-string, and then getting the sums to over-achieve, largely based upon the togetherness of the squad. I still think that Derek will keep us up, especially when some of the injured list come back.

[BerlinWaller]

Keiths alarm has gone off again and he has put on his super Jim Bentley underpants.

Yes Keith, some people are even saying bring Ged back! They must be sniffing glue. If you were at the game yesterday you would have heard the booing and some of the comments. I believe some of the nut jobs that post on FB are also calling for Dereks head.

[Billy bodger]

No need to call for Derek’s head at all, I though he needed to change it earlier, that was why there was shouts and booing, because he didn’t make any changes till after 80 mins.
It’s my opinion he should have changed it after they got the third goal, but he’s the guy in charge and you have to let him get on with it and for me that’s where it ends.

On Derek being the right man to get us out of our predicament, from me it’s a yes, playing the Derek Adam’s way, well we will see, maybe a bit more expensive, like last seasons form.

As I posted earlier we are 24th so we have to win the majority of the following games Carlisle, Swindon, Bromley, Harrogate, Tranmere, Grimsby and Colchester before Christmas. If we can nick points off Wimbledon, Port Vale, Chesterfield and Cheltenham all well and good. I think from what I’ve seen if the players turn up it’s doable.

I said months ago if we go out of the League it has to be that we finished 24th or 23rd at the end of the season because of our performance on the pitch, no deducted points just not being good enough.

[Keith]

Keiths alarm has gone off again and he has put on his super Jim Bentley underpants.

Yes Keith, some people are even saying bring Ged back! They must be sniffing glue. If you were at the game yesterday you would have heard the booing and some of the comments. I believe some of the nut jobs that post on FB are also calling for Dereks head.

Yup, I know, it is a Pavlovian response. Derek is really up against it. Jim was always, really up against it. In his last season, he even had our dickhead owners putting on Facebook, whether Jim should have his contract renewed. That's really up against it. Now of course, everyone recognises that they were dickhead owners, sadly, we're still lumbered with them (one?).

When people like me said that finishing third from bottom in League Two was a success under Jim, you said it was loser mentality. Now, this season, even you recognise the reality. Third from bottom or higher is a success.

If there are some people calling for Derek to go, they are a small minority. Criticising him for making changes too late in the game is different.

I still think we will stay up, and that is because Derek is a superb manager. Saturday was frustrating, because I really thought after getting our first win, we'd go on a bit of a run. A stupid penalty in the first minute put paid to that. These things happen. Plus, Milton Keynes have a squad that is worth twenty times what ours is, if not more. What would their wage budget be compared to ours? Anyone seriously thinking Ged would return, yeah, I'll agree with you, they must be sniffing glue!

We pick up, and go again on Tuesday.

[black morse]

Keiths alarm has gone off again and he has put on his super Jim Bentley underpants.

Yes Keith, some people are even saying bring Ged back! They must be sniffing glue. If you were at the game yesterday you would have heard the booing and some of the comments. I believe some of the nut jobs that post on FB are also calling for Dereks head.

Yup, I know, it is a Pavlovian response. Derek is really up against it. Jim was always, really up against it. In his last season, he even had our dickhead owners putting on Facebook, whether Jim should have his contract renewed. That's really up against it. Now of course, everyone recognises that they were dickhead owners, sadly, we're still lumbered with them (one?).

When people like me said that finishing third from bottom in League Two was a success under Jim, you said it was loser mentality. Now, this season, even you recognise the reality. Third from bottom or higher is a success.

If there are some people calling for Derek to go, they are a small minority. Criticising him for making changes too late in the game is different.

I still think we will stay up, and that is because Derek is a superb manager. Saturday was frustrating, because I really thought after getting our first win, we'd go on a bit of a run. A stupid penalty in the first minute put paid to that. These things happen. Plus, Milton Keynes have a squad that is worth twenty times what ours is, if not more. What would their wage budget be compared to ours? Anyone seriously thinking Ged would return, yeah, I'll agree with you, they must be sniffing glue!

We pick up, and go again on Tuesday.

Glad you think we'll stay up Keith. I'm afraid I don't and the reason is not that we'll not get enough points on the pitch but that we'll probably get a points deduction for something. We'll be very lucky to get through the season without a deduction and 'very lucky' is something we aren't.

[Keith]

Glad you think we'll stay up Keith. I'm afraid I don't and the reason is not that we'll not get enough points on the pitch but that we'll probably get a points deduction for something. We'll be very lucky to get through the season without a deduction and 'very lucky' is something we aren't.

That's a fair point. Any points deductions will see us down, I'm sure. That really would be a bitter pill to take, if the team & management do enough to keep us in the Football League, but 'ownership' issues force us down.