Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the club?

[Keith]

Everyone who is a Morecambe fan, should join The Trust.

[Keith]

Just found this on Twitter -
https://x.com/MFCProtestGroup

What does it say? I can't see it without logging in to Xitter.

[jbc.shrimp]

Just found this on Twitter -
https://x.com/MFCProtestGroup

You get a quick glimpse of the crest then told to log in.

[jbc.shrimp]

Is there any S/Ver with fantastic financial know how ? Could the Trust aquire a business loan to buy the cowboy out. I have posed this in the past. Set up a payment point in J.B's, at each home match as many of us as can puts a minimum of £1 in for the Trust to make payments. Yes this would take some time, but if we as fans are serious enough is the the only action to be able to get rid of the cowboy.

[redrobo]

Problem is nobody knows the asking price for fact. Rumours yes but to date nothing definate

If only we has a couple or more millionaires as supporters who could form a consortium to but the club and then fans would be in charge

[marky No.1]

As has been said before, it's not just buying it, it is forking out the running costs

[captain sparkle]

Just found this on Twitter -
https://x.com/MFCProtestGroup

What does it say? I can't see it without logging in to Xitter.

In a nutshell -
Shrimps Protest Group
@MFCProtestGroup
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22h
Enough is enough. Action coming soon.

[Billy bodger]

What can they do without doing something that has not already been done?

Are they going down a different path?

Shock tactics?

Something that will damage the club they profess to support?

I was against the calls for ‘time to step up’ by some on here, well are you stepping up today?

Do you know those who have set up this group?

Are you privy to what they plan to do?

May I just say, don’t do anything that will get you a life time ban, you will have to go and watch City!!!

[al1]

Very sad that on Saturday fans were stopped from protesting against the owner,extensive searches of fans at the turnstiles including under 16 year olds! Fans with balloons in their possession were denied entry and threatened with banning orders,unbelievable. I bet the owner is laughing at this situation as he continues his efforts to do to us what he did to Worcester Warriors rugby team.

[KenH]

Very sad that on Saturday fans were stopped from protesting against the owner,extensive searches of fans at the turnstiles including under 16 year olds! Fans with balloons in their possession were denied entry and threatened with banning orders,unbelievable. I bet the owner is laughing at this situation as he continues his efforts to do to us what he did to Worcester Warriors rugby team.

Rod has been on Facebook denying it was his/the Board who instructed the bouncers to search for, and remove balloons, so we can only assume the security officer or the bouncers themselves made their own decision, which if true, is completely unacceptable and I hope Rod and the Board make that crystal clear to the security officer for the future.

I'd also say that in all the years I've been sitting in Block D (ever since the move to Westgate), I've never seen any trouble at all in blocks D and E, no flares, no fights, no banned items, no pitch invasions, etc., yet in the last year or two, the security/stewards have been way over the top, regularly doing searches at the turnstiles, and being generally unpleasant. Completely unnecessary for what are basically a couple of incredibly well behaved stands of mostly OAPs and young families. It's all definitely gone backwards and unpleasant since the previous head of security/chief steward (or whatever he was called) has left.

[Billy bodger]

I posted this on another topic:-

I was in the Halo Stand yesterday, near the BerlinWall corner flag. The chief steward was standing in that corner and another steward, (one of those who is a, let’s say watcher of the fans!), came up to him and you could see he was pointing to the middle of the stand where the ballon thing was happening and that he was describing someone and I could see he mouthed it was a guy in a black jacket. The chief steward went off in that direction.
What went on after that I don’t know but if the fan was approached it’s because you are being watched.
A discussion went on with two police officers as well but they didn’t seem to go to the area pointed out.
Have a look the some stewards are scouring the fans.

So who gave the order if it wasn’t the board that fans had to be searched? It’s not the first time this season at the Halo Stand, but has not been done for a few home games.

I’ve not really a problem if it was policy at every game or we were alerted to it before the game that a search was taking place at that game the coming weekend.

[Catte]

I fear you are sleep walking into a Bury situation.

The time to start your actions was some time ago now, you should all be members of the trust and put any concerns behind you whilst you fight and you have to fight for your club.
To save this club you cannot be squeamish some actions will not be positive for the club and sometimes you have to dig deep.

You need people outside Morecambe taking notice, most of all you need to be organised and that has to be through the Trust. People with balloons will not do it, sitting on your hands waiting for some one to ride in and save you probably is not going to happen any time soon. From the outside and I am outside it looks and reads like you care a bit but not enough to get your hands dirty. if I had the money I would look at it and think well the fans are bothered but cant be mithered what happens if I throw money at it and we struggle will they walk away?

Join the trust if you don't want to stand in the cold, and hope they have a plan.

[black morse]

I fear you are sleep walking into a Bury situation.

The time to start your actions was some time ago now, you should all be members of the trust and put any concerns behind you whilst you fight and you have to fight for your club.
To save this club you cannot be squeamish some actions will not be positive for the club and sometimes you have to dig deep.

You need people outside Morecambe taking notice, most of all you need to be organised and that has to be through the Trust. People with balloons will not do it, sitting on your hands waiting for some one to ride in and save you probably is not going to happen any time soon. From the outside and I am outside it looks and reads like you care a bit but not enough to get your hands dirty. if I had the money I would look at it and think well the fans are bothered but cant be mithered what happens if I throw money at it and we struggle will they walk away?

Join the trust if you don't want to stand in the cold, and hope they have a plan.

Well said Catte. I think part of the indecision stems from the silence of the Board which have meant some people have felt that things must be going in the right direction albeit slowly. The Trust was set up in case we ever found ourselves in the mire and that is where we are now. I've no idea how many SV'rs are already members of the Trust but we all should be. The cost of joining is certainly not prohibitive.

[KenH]

Well said Catte. I think part of the indecision stems from the silence of the Board which have meant some people have felt that things must be going in the right direction albeit slowly. The Trust was set up in case we ever found ourselves in the mire and that is where we are now. I've no idea how many SV'rs are already members of the Trust but we all should be. The cost of joining is certainly not prohibitive.

Not just silence of the Board, but the Board have made statements telling fans not to protest etc as they feel it may damage the club. It's definitely been a message of "we know what we're doing" and telling fans just to carry on attending, buying tickets and merchandise, etc. Due to the immense high regard that most fans hold towards the Board members, the fans have believed what they were told to do (or not do). When you have the likes of Rod telling you not to protest, I don't think you can criticise the fans for believing what they're being told.

[Catte]

Man of my convictions I have joined the Trust, now can ahem those that can do without a pie and a pint (similar cost to joining the trust at least at the Reebok) next home game do the same and let's get the ball rolling on saving this club.

[black morse]

Well said Catte. I think part of the indecision stems from the silence of the Board which have meant some people have felt that things must be going in the right direction albeit slowly. The Trust was set up in case we ever found ourselves in the mire and that is where we are now. I've no idea how many SV'rs are already members of the Trust but we all should be. The cost of joining is certainly not prohibitive.

Not just silence of the Board, but the Board have made statements telling fans not to protest etc as they feel it may damage the club. It's definitely been a message of "we know what we're doing" and telling fans just to carry on attending, buying tickets and merchandise, etc. Due to the immense high regard that most fans hold towards the Board members, the fans have believed what they were told to do (or not do). When you have the likes of Rod telling you not to protest, I don't think you can criticise the fans for believing what they're being told.

I do not agree with a pitch invasion due to reprocussions it would bring on the club BUT the fans should be allowed to protest in peaceful ways inside or outside the stadium. This is probably something the Trust should sort out with the Board. To be fair the Board did make a public statement last Summer calling Jason a liar but it's time that they did the same thing again (or explain why they feel they can't).

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

No protests at the stadium will have the slightest effect on Whittingham who sits in his ivory tower down south and treats us with contempt. He destroyed Worcester and slowly but surely is doing the same to us. We can only speculate on what his motives are? Presumably financial but who knows. Do we know where his home or business address is. Can we take the fight to his doorstep? Peacefully of course but actually in his face where he will be forced to take notice. Basically can we treat him with the contempt he treats us with.

[Billy bodger]

No protests at the stadium will have the slightest effect on Whittingham who sits in his ivory tower down south and treats us with contempt. He destroyed Worcester and slowly but surely is doing the same to us. We can only speculate on what his motives are? Presumably financial but who knows. Do we know where his home or business address is. Can we take the fight to his doorstep? Peacefully of course but actually in his face where he will be forced to take notice. Basically can we treat him with the contempt he treats us with.

Going down to his house or business address is not treating him with contempt, unfortunately it could end up with anyone who chooses to do so being in trouble, as turning up unannounced could mean that he says he feels threatened, not recommended and yes I don’t know what else to suggest except media exposure. I have in the past written to the EFL on Morecambe FC’s plight and only received a bland acknowledgement. Fans eh!!

[Wild Bill]

Trust need to be smart. How about a billboard at the end of his road?

[nobbyshrimp]

Bombard the local press where he lives to hilight our plight and that he lives in their area!

[Billy bodger]

Trust need to be smart. How about a billboard at the end of his road?

Maybe “Three billboards outside………”, So one outside of The Mazuma, just two other places to think of, any suggestions?? (Somewhere that maximises publicity).

[Keith]

The problem remains, what can we actually do?

Large, visual protests, such as a pitch invasion, tennis balls etc will result in lots of medai coverage, but points deduction that may actually be what relegates us.

Smaller protests, that don't result in points deductions, won't get the media coverage that is needed.

'Not a Penny More', boycotting pies & pints simply reduces the working capital of the club.

Boycotting home games altogether will massively impact upon the day-to-day working of the club, potentially leading to non-payment of wages, and again, points deduction.

At the moment, the players and management are giving 100% to try and keep us in the Football League. They need our support, so we need to focus on that.

If at some point in the season, we're cut adrift, with no hope of staying up, then a different approach may be needed. Ultimately, I fear it will take Administration to get rid of the pawn-broker, but that will really screw the club up.

A photo popped up in my Google Pictures 'history' recently. It was taken at Portman Road, when we played Ipswich. It feels like a long time ago now. Chorley next season is highly likely.

[Billy bodger]

I think there is a national story here and we just need widespread exposure of the problems Morecambe FC have. Having a bad owner is indicative of what has happened at other Clubs, with some going under. If the Shrimps Trust can get an Intrested party in the main stream national press about the ownership of Morecambe FC is the best way forward.
JW currently director of over 10 companies and when you look into them his business acumen is certainly not the best and combined with what happened to Worcester Warriors a picture energies. Of course he might be just unlucky in business, (He certainly likes to portray himself as a victim!!) and we are on the end of that and all that comes with it.
I think it may well be he is running out of avenues he can go down and that is having a massive effect on our club for the worse.

[Old Man Kensey]

Sadly the mainstream media have little or no interest outside of the Premier League, unless your Wrexham, but are happy to spend hours talking crap about who may or may not be the new manager of Man Utd.

They paid Bury and Macclesfield hardly any coverage until it was too late, then circled the corpses like vultures waiting for the death story.....

[Wild Bill]

Sometimes you just have to do something. It does though need leadership from the Trust and a calm and coordinated approach. I think a few months ago, they did well getting the media's attention and some comms from Jason. Now that's died down, he's gone quiet and we are still in limbo. With January approaching, our very survival in the football league is at stake. If we are still in this position then, we really are screwed.

Personally, I think there was a deal going to the EFL in the summer and this has been rejected. However, I suspect there's an appeal going on currently, hence the radio silence.

Things we can do:

Trust get on the media
Trust fund some billboards near Jason's house and the ground
Engage with other Trusts for support and advice (particularly those that have had ownership issues)
Fans wear black to every game, bring black balloons (where allowed), bring Jason Out banners (where allowed), change FB profiles (Jason out). Keep this up all season
Keep supporting Derek and the team (whether you like him or not, this helps our team and our plight)