Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the club?

Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby black morse » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:17 am

Wild Bill wrote:Sometimes you just have to do something. It does though need leadership from the Trust and a calm and coordinated approach. I think a few months ago, they did well getting the media's attention and some comms from Jason. Now that's died down, he's gone quiet and we are still in limbo. With January approaching, our very survival in the football league is at stake. If we are still in this position then, we really are screwed.

Personally, I think there was a deal going to the EFL in the summer and this has been rejected. However, I suspect there's an appeal going on currently, hence the radio silence.

Things we can do:

Trust get on the media
Trust fund some billboards near Jason's house and the ground
Engage with other Trusts for support and advice (particularly those that have had ownership issues)
Fans wear black to every game, bring black balloons (where allowed), bring Jason Out banners (where allowed), change FB profiles (Jason out). Keep this up all season
Keep supporting Derek and the team (whether you like him or not, this helps our team and our plight)


I'm sure that the Trust have already done this one.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby KenH » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:00 pm

How about the Trust making a load of "Jason Out" T shirts? Fans could buy them and wear them under their coats and then at a specified time(s) of the game, open our jackets en-masse and effectively "flash" their Jason Out T shirts! I'm sure a bulk order of cheap printed T shirts could be bought for less than a tenner per shirt. Keep it simple. Just one size for all. Lardies like me can make a slice down the back to make it fit if necessary!
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Catte » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:58 pm

Step 1 has to be join the trust

My membership number is under 500 can there really be so few, we need to ramp this number up and then the trust becomes the focal point and the voice of any campaign.

Avoid anything at the stadium that can bounce back on the club be it in fines or points deducted. The owner is currently counting on any campaigns being disjointed where with the trust the thing can be coordinated.
In Morecambe there must be a company that will print t-shirts for a few quid, have someone creative come up with a slogan then take your T-shirt to be printed and agree when to display.

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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Old Man Kensey » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:21 pm

Catte wrote:Step 1 has to be join the trust

My membership number is under 500 can there really be so few, we need to ramp this number up and then the trust becomes the focal point and the voice of any campaign.

Avoid anything at the stadium that can bounce back on the club be it in fines or points deducted. The owner is currently counting on any campaigns being disjointed where with the trust the thing can be coordinated.
In Morecambe there must be a company that will print t-shirts for a few quid, have someone creative come up with a slogan then take your T-shirt to be printed and agree when to display.

Join the Trust


Why not contact them direct hello@shrimpstrust.co.uk and ask them about the level of membership? I've communicated with them a few times and always found them very helpful and fast in their responses.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby vvm » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:56 pm

Catte wrote:Step 1 has to be join the trust

My membership number is under 500 can there really be so few, we need to ramp this number up and then the trust becomes the focal point and the voice of any campaign.

Avoid anything at the stadium that can bounce back on the club be it in fines or points deducted. The owner is currently counting on any campaigns being disjointed where with the trust the thing can be coordinated.
In Morecambe there must be a company that will print t-shirts for a few quid, have someone creative come up with a slogan then take your T-shirt to be printed and agree when to display.

Join the Trust


I think there are a lot more members than that. My number is less than 20 and I joined a couple of week ago.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby redrobo » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:45 pm

Just my thoughts on the shirts

For me it has to be something that catches a camera man's eye during a home game so that it will send a message to any interested parties on match day highlights. Not sure that t shirts would be ideal but why not follow in producing printed cards like Everton saying something like CLUB FOR SALE and placed on all fans seating and in the standing areas. It got the message over at Everton and whilst we are not in the same league if everybody raised their card at a certain time during the game it could be one hell of a statement by the vast majority of fans at a home game.

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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby vvm » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:24 am

The stewards would have the time of their lives wrestling any cards or banners out of our hands
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby black morse » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:33 am

vvm wrote:The stewards would have the time of their lives wrestling any cards or banners out of our hands


With the Board denying that they gave the 'balloon' instructions and setting up an inquiry into the incidents I cannot see the stewards acting without instructions over any future protest and I cannot see the Board issuing instructions regarding banners and placards. It would not be against Health and Safety nor would it disrupt the game.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby deadorred70 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:15 pm

Seems the stewards have more say in what happpens at our club these days. :cry:
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Billy bodger » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:20 pm

Club statement 20 mins ago Directors met the prospective buyers but can not name them. It was a cordial meeting.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby BerlinWaller » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 pm

I think the answer to the original question is...YES, some do!
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Billy bodger » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:41 pm

It’s great people have fight in them because I believe there is a long way to go yet.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby BerlinWaller » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:44 pm

Billy bodger wrote:It’s great people have fight in them because I believe there is a long way to go yet.


I don't think anybody thinks any different to that but the proactive group seem to be making waves. Unless Jason is getting bored of reading the long winded posts on here and has decided it is time to go
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Keith » Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:47 pm

Photos nicked from the 'MFC Protest Group' Twitter. They've been busy. Hope they can keep it going in his neighbourhood. If his neighbours start asking him about it, he may not hide.
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Postby Keith » Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:47 pm

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Postby Keith » Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:48 pm

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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Old Man Kensey » Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:09 pm

Does anyone think that any of that will make the slightest bit of difference? Jason really doesn't care.

I just hope the Protest group doesn't go too far and ruin a home game. The club can ill afford to lose points and any fine might well see us off altogether.

I doubt administration would be the the holy grail some think it will be either. It would more likely result in us playing Ramsbottom next season.

It's all a bit juvenile for my taste.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Wild Bill » Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:05 pm

I am guessing that's his home town. Fair play. It's bound to at least cause some embarrassment. Keep it up
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Keith » Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:19 am

Old Man Kensey wrote:Does anyone think that any of that will make the slightest bit of difference? Jason really doesn't care.

I just hope the Protest group doesn't go too far and ruin a home game. The club can ill afford to lose points and any fine might well see us off altogether.

I doubt administration would be the the holy grail some think it will be either. It would more likely result in us playing Ramsbottom next season.

It's all a bit juvenile for my taste.


I certainly don't think Administration will be 'a good thing', and if it can be avoided, it must be. Unfortunately, I think the likelihood looms larger every week that goes by. It would at least rid us of Whittingham.

And, I 100% agree that the protest group mustn't do anything that could lead to a points deduction. If we're to stay up this season, it may well be by the skin of our teeth. Relegation because of actions by fans would be a very bitter pill to swallow.

As for the posters, I think it is a good thing. Whittingham doesn't care about Morecambe FC, or Worcester Warriors. He only cares about himself. It may be that his 'reputation', such as it is, matters enough to him to think 'enough is enough' and sell-up, at a sensible price, to a realistic bidder (if one remains). A neighbour asking why his photo was at Waitrose is probably more powerful than a protest march or demo at the ground, that he'll never see.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby black morse » Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:56 am

Keith wrote:
Old Man Kensey wrote:Does anyone think that any of that will make the slightest bit of difference? Jason really doesn't care.

I just hope the Protest group doesn't go too far and ruin a home game. The club can ill afford to lose points and any fine might well see us off altogether.

I doubt administration would be the the holy grail some think it will be either. It would more likely result in us playing Ramsbottom next season.

It's all a bit juvenile for my taste.


I certainly don't think Administration will be 'a good thing', and if it can be avoided, it must be. Unfortunately, I think the likelihood looms larger every week that goes by. It would at least rid us of Whittingham.

And, I 100% agree that the protest group mustn't do anything that could lead to a points deduction. If we're to stay up this season, it may well be by the skin of our teeth. Relegation because of actions by fans would be a very bitter pill to swallow.

As for the posters, I think it is a good thing. Whittingham doesn't care about Morecambe FC, or Worcester Warriors. He only cares about himself. It may be that his 'reputation', such as it is, matters enough to him to think 'enough is enough' and sell-up, at a sensible price, to a realistic bidder (if one remains). A neighbour asking why his photo was at Waitrose is probably more powerful than a protest march or demo at the ground, that he'll never see.[/quote]

Reinforced by a PEACEFUL protest outside his house?
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Hodgie1978 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:03 am

The only people that have done something stupid and cost us points is Jason and the Board. That's fact.
I think we should all get behind the protest group because they seem to be a professional outfit who have been relentless this week.
Or just be like Old Man Kensey who offer absolutely nothing.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby Keith » Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:51 am

black morse wrote:Reinforced by a PEACEFUL protest outside his house?


Not sure about that. I don't know if he has children who may feel quite intimidated? May even come under 'stalking' legislation. Perhaps a step too far?

Regular visits to the EFL headquarters may get some press coverage.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby redrobo » Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:59 am

Hodgie1978 wrote:The only people that have done something stupid and cost us points is Jason and the Board. That's fact.
I think we should all get behind the protest group because they seem to be a professional outfit who have been relentless this week.
Or just be like Old Man Kensey who offer absolutely nothing.


And exactly what have our BoDs done to deserve such a ridiculous statement.... :?: :?: :?:

They have had to run our club as best they can under very trying circumstances.

In fact I'm surprised that they are still there doing their best on behalf of us all.

What alternative do you suggest rather than making such accusations.....and where is the proof in your assessment... :?: :?: :?:

Jason is the problem....nobody else so point your finger of blame solely in his direction.
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Re: Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the clu

Postby KenH » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:29 pm

redrobo wrote:
Hodgie1978 wrote:The only people that have done something stupid and cost us points is Jason and the Board. That's fact.
I think we should all get behind the protest group because they seem to be a professional outfit who have been relentless this week.
Or just be like Old Man Kensey who offer absolutely nothing.


And exactly what have our BoDs done to deserve such a ridiculous statement.... :?: :?: :?:

They have had to run our club as best they can under very trying circumstances.

In fact I'm surprised that they are still there doing their best on behalf of us all.

What alternative do you suggest rather than making such accusations.....and where is the proof in your assessment... :?: :?: :?:

Jason is the problem....nobody else so point your finger of blame solely in his direction.


The Board CHOSE to use the million pound profit made in the promotion season to pay off debt. Fair enough. But why not keep some of it back to use to augment the players' wages budget? Yes, I know the club were being charged an extortionate amount of interest on the loans, but it does seem spectacularly stupid to pay off the loans one year, and then have to go begging Jason again immediately afterwards to borrow more money. Did no one do any projections and forecasts??

Same with the winnings from cup runs? Is there any solid proof that Derek will see the money, or, again, will the Board choose to pay some or all of any winnings back in loan repayments??

It wasn't Jason's fault that the Board beggared up the VAT and caused the fiasco the club suffered earlier this year with the HMRC debt due to what sounds to be quite a VAT foul up.

I'm first to point fingers at Jason for most of the club's problems, but my opinion is that the Board have made mistakes too!
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