Do Morecambe fans have the fight in them to save the club?

[Billy bodger]

It wasn't Jason's fault that the Board beggared up the VAT and caused the fiasco the club suffered earlier this year with the HMRC debt due to what sounds to be quite a VAT foul up.

Never got to the bottom of that!! as far as I know we never got the money back, did we ever? because as I said at the time it’s against the law to keep a wrong payment.

I agree it was really baffling that the footballing side of the business did not invest a bit more in players, we were not far off being able to stay in League 1, a bit of thinking on that front things might have been somewhat different to where we are now, especially straight after paying off the dept we had to go borrowing once again.

Posters protest has started, what next? What ware they planning for the Port Vale game?

[Old Man Kensey]

The only people that have done something stupid and cost us points is Jason and the Board. That's fact.
I think we should all get behind the protest group because they seem to be a professional outfit who have been relentless this week.
Or just be like Old Man Kensey who offer absolutely nothing.

Not a case of doing nothing. It's a tightrope of a line and I hope the Protest group don't cross it. It makes people feel better that someone is doing someone but in the end will it account for anything?

Let's see what the Trust offer next Friday. They have the ear of the Board, Jason, the EFL, the media and the local MP. The EFL won't go near the Protest group, neither will the media.

So it's a lot of pissing into the wind, but it's at least our piss. We need to attack from all angles, let's just be careful we don't end up costing the club.

[BerlinWaller]

There hasn't been any sign of the group overstepping the mark up to now and as they state, they are loyal Morecambe fans so why should there be?

They have done more than the Trust has done in years

[Keith]

...won't go near the Protest group, neither will the media.

Not sure I agree that the media won't cover them. If they get it right, they may well get coverage.

[Old Man Kensey]

...won't go near the Protest group, neither will the media.

Not sure I agree that the media won't cover them. If they get it right, they may well get coverage.

BBC and Beyond have both shunned them, preferring to talk to the Trust. It needs a bit of everything from all angles but I personally feel that the Trust carry far more weight.

[BerlinWaller]

...won't go near the Protest group, neither will the media.

Not sure I agree that the media won't cover them. If they get it right, they may well get coverage.

BBC and Beyond have both shunned them, preferring to talk to the Trust. It needs a bit of everything from all angles but I personally feel that the Trust carry far more weight.

How do you know that they have been shunned? The Trust does carry more weight and that might explain why they move so slowly

[redrobo]

As to paying off the loans.....it is quite possible that the terms of any loan specified that they had to be repaid within a certain time frame which in business is quite acceptable.

Not saying our BoDs are perfect in fact they would admit that they get it wrong some of the time (which business is 100% perfect ) but to tarnish them with the same brush as JW is in my opinion totally wrong.

However I expect quite a few to disagree...but that's life.....

[Billy bodger]

There hasn't been any sign of the group overstepping the mark up to now and as they state, they are loyal Morecambe fans so why should there be?

They have done more than the Trust has done in years

The Trust has to work in a different way and to be fair the Trust now has a new pro-active hierarchy that is starting to step up, while the Protest group can go off piste somewhat. (Posters!!).

As for overstepping the mark, we will wait and see how that pans out, fly-posting posters is against the law, so it only takes someone with a dim/sensitive view of them or there content to alert the authorities.

[black morse]

There hasn't been any sign of the group overstepping the mark up to now and as they state, they are loyal Morecambe fans so why should there be?

They have done more than the Trust has done in years

The Trust has to work in a different way and to be fair the Trust now has a new pro-active hierarchy that is starting to step up, while the Protest group can go off piste somewhat. (Posters!!).

As for overstepping the mark, we will wait and see how that pans out, fly-posting posters is against the law, so it only takes someone with a dim/sensitive view of them or there content to alert the authorities.

And who would alert the authorities?

[Billy bodger]

There hasn't been any sign of the group overstepping the mark up to now and as they state, they are loyal Morecambe fans so why should there be?

They have done more than the Trust has done in years

The Trust has to work in a different way and to be fair the Trust now has a new pro-active hierarchy that is starting to step up, while the Protest group can go off piste somewhat. (Posters!!).

As for overstepping the mark, we will wait and see how that pans out, fly-posting posters is against the law, so it only takes someone with a dim/sensitive view of them or there content to alert the authorities.

And who would alert the authorities?

Well who??

[KenH]

And who would alert the authorities?

And why does anyone think "the authorities" will do anything. They don't do much about black economy tax evasion, road traffic offences, shoplifting, anti social behaviour, etc., so unless there's a racial or other "protected characteristic" angle to any campaigning, they'll not bother other than the usual soundbites.

[KenH]

As to paying off the loans.....it is quite possible that the terms of any loan specified that they had to be repaid within a certain time frame which in business is quite acceptable.

Highly doubtful considering no one could have foreseen Covid, a good cup run, promotion, selling a couple of brilliant young players, Wembley, etc.

"IF" the loans had some kind of maturity date of 2020/21, then the club would have been absolutely beggared had there not been a pandemic, had we not got to play off position, had we not won at Wembley, had we not sold Leif Davies, etc etc.

Quite frankly, if someone, a year earlier had said the club would have the best year of it's existence and make a million pound profit, they'd have been carted off to the funny farm and put in a padded cell.

[Billy bodger]

As to paying off the loans.....it is quite possible that the terms of any loan specified that they had to be repaid within a certain time frame which in business is quite acceptable.

Highly doubtful considering no one could have foreseen Covid, a good cup run, promotion, selling a couple of brilliant young players, Wembley, etc.

"IF" the loans had some kind of maturity date of 2020/21, then the club would have been absolutely beggared had there not been a pandemic, had we not got to play off position, had we not won at Wembley, had we not sold Leif Davies, etc etc.

Quite frankly, if someone, a year earlier had said the club would have the best year of it's existence and make a million pound profit, they'd have been carted off to the funny farm and put in a padded cell.

Might be right Ken, but the profit was carted off!

[Billy bodger]

And who would alert the authorities?

And why does anyone think "the authorities" will do anything. They don't do much about black economy tax evasion, road traffic offences, shoplifting, anti social behaviour, etc., so unless there's a racial or other "protected characteristic" angle to any campaigning, they'll not bother other than the usual soundbites.

Highly unlikely authorities will bother even if they are alerted, maybe Because of pictures being posted on Morecambe FC type forums, we up here know while in Buckhurst Hill nobody’s noticed and if nobody’s noticed the mission has failed. Has anybody down there noticed they have been put up?

What I would like to know is how many was put up? Now a poster for every day we have been up for sale would have gained attention.

[nobbyshrimp]

The registered address of JW is Coach house which if you look at it carefully is a really lovely bloody expensive house with electric gates and outdoor pool in the rear garden. House is massive! I can’t see that just being the registered address, more likely to be his home as that’ll cost a fortune down there. Someone needs to take a dump in the pool

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

The registered address of JW is Coach house which if you look at it carefully is a really lovely bloody expensive house with electric gates and outdoor pool in the rear garden. House is massive! I can’t see that just being the registered address, more likely to be his home as that’ll cost a fortune down there. Someone needs to take a dump in the pool

Are we talking about the Coach House, Westbury Lane, Buckhurst Hill? If so maps shows it as a detached but can’t see any electric gates. On one photo has a black mini in the driveway and on another a skip.

[nobbyshrimp]

You’re joking, he wouldn’t lower his standards to the working class, try The Coach House, Powell Road, Buckhurst Hill on street view then aerial view.
Merc on drive, 2 x Merc on road, 1 Toyota , 1 Nissan & 1 black Range Rover on road nearby

Ps
It is currently the most expensive property in this postcode area at £2.26million

[Billy bodger]

This is not the right road to go down, Metaphorically speaking!!

[black morse]

This is not the right road to go down, Metaphorically speaking!!

It is one of the 'avenues' that can be discussed at the Trust meeting on Friday.

[Billy bodger]

It’s certainly up some peoples ‘street’ from posts on here.

[KenH]

This is not the right road to go down, Metaphorically speaking!!

At least it IS a road. That's what we've been desperately lacking up to now. We've had a Board that's been telling us to "trust them" for several years but kept everyone in the dark. We used to have a trust that was pretty impotent. I fully understand fans doing their own thing and setting up a protest group. Let's hope the newly constituted trust can come up with something effective that doesn't harm the club but gets the media attention and action the club needs. Then we wouldn't need a spin off protest group.

[black morse]

The registered address of JW is Coach house which if you look at it carefully is a really lovely bloody expensive house with electric gates and outdoor pool in the rear garden. House is massive! I can’t see that just being the registered address, more likely to be his home as that’ll cost a fortune down there. Someone needs to take a dump in the pool

Another suggestion for the Trust meeting???